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starting over after a successful L5 fussion need help with disability questions and domestic relations

Started by rayg2011 on 03/07/2012 4:44pm

well i had a successful L4 stablization and a L5 fusion. but i'm on health sustaning medication.
the big problem i have is i'm on a very low pain medicain that is stopping me from findind any gainful work.
i was even turned away from a temp agency. i called a law office and i was told by them i'm screwed.
do to the med i'm on plus the fact what they did to my back no one will hire me. if i'm lucky they said i might be able to go to school for a desk job. i have had a life of over the road driving and contruction cdl driver. this realy is all i know how to make a living. i have two girls to support from a failed first marrage. even domestics is given me a fight. they haven't stoppped my rears from the day my unemployment stopped to if and when i may return to work. i was told from the law office to talk to my surgan and explain all that is going on and see if he will back me up. then i have to file disability that same day to stop domestics from makeing things worse. has anyone been in my shoes. the surgery improved my quality of life but it also handycaped me in being able to get back to work. any help i would be very greatful. also i'm from the state of PA.

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Why would any company need to know the meds you are on? They don't have a right to ask. Also if you are drug tested they will call you first and ask if you have a doctors prescription for it.

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as i said i have a CDL drivers liscense all companies drug test you first.
two the state can call me for a random test of there own.
most companies now days drug test you even if your in a warehouse working.
even if you work at sears they drug test you.
the law states you are not allowed to drive a comercial vehical while under any medications that may impair your abillity to drive.
also you are not allowed to operate machinery while on pain medications.
i'm asking for help here because while i'm still not allowed to return to work by my surgan.
i wanted to at least try and get out there to see if i could get a jump on it if i am able to go back to work at the end of the month.
i was turned away from a temp agency they wouldn't even let me register with them.
so i called a law office.
do to the fact all i have done for 14 years is drive tractor trailer its all i know.
i have no other skills.
no money or credit for schooling.
and if its all i can do the medication will stop me from being able to make a living.
not to mention i can't work a job that may cause me to reinjure my back.
i have two children to support and i can't do it on minumim wage.
plus i was told be the law office with me having back surgury no one will hire me do to being a high risk.
see i don't have a job to go back to.
would be diferent if i was working and then had this done.
because then the company would have me back but doing something low impack.
i'm asking if anyone has had this problem.
has anyone had to file for disability because of this.
what can i do about domestics till i figure out what way i need to go.
has anyone returned to work after a L4 stableization and a L5 fusion.???????????

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well guess no answers.
ill talk to my doctor and go for the disability.
going to be doing allot of fishing.
ray.

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I am in similiar positon. I had a l5-s1 fusion March 8 2011. Its been a year and I am so better off, but was let go by my work. My back injury was due to my job. I am still receiving work comp payments and will be receiving a settlement but it will not take care of me the rest of my life. I am only 43 in decent shape. I am having similiar problems finding a job as well. I have been given restrictions of not lifting anything over 10lbs. I was a merchandiser for a company for the past 10yrs and this is the only job I have held. I was a stay at home mom. I filed for disability and was denied and haven't decided if I am going to pursue it. I am currently on tramadol 2x a day. What pain killers are you still taking? I'm sorry for the situation you are in. Any help I can do please ask, not sure what I can do, but listen and help. Good luck

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Well I'm 40 now and seems like you try to heal yourself so you can take care of your children.
And now it's as though the world doesn't want you.
I have never been so depressed in my life.
Then on top of what you have read. I had a X-ray done a few days ago.
Because my surgan said he wasn't going to do one at the end of my sixth month.
He told me I would be fused by then and I had to be patient and wait.
WELL I'm not fully fused!!!!! Yes there is allot of new bone growth. But still a open
Gap between the two. My ex wife had dropped the domestics because they were trying to get me to appear and then send me off to the pokey. All because they never filed my disability paper from my surgan. No not full disability just for the time to heal. Now I see why all the people on here have failed hardware. It's the only thing keeping me together right now. Yes it has improved the quality of my life by two folds. But I'm on transene24mg Gabapentin 300mg
Morphine sul 30mg fast tab and mobic 7.5mg a day. No the pain medican isn't strong enough to effect my ability to do things. But they are saying I'll never drive again or be around machinery. I take the morphine for the tightness of the muscles over the hardware. Just gets very sore at times.
So I'm going to talk to the surgan to let him know I'm filling for SSDI.
And to see if he will back me. If he don't. And I'm turned down. I'll push for a hearing.
I have no choice now. I'm not going to break the hardware for a minumom wage job that won't support me or my girls. The government wants to tie my hands with there bull shit now they can pay for me to set at home on my butt. But all and all I'm some what healthy like you just not allowed to do anything for a living. Now I truly understand everyone complaint about surgery. I try to support people on here in that if your last option is surgery it can give you hope of 99.9% less pain then with out.
Yes some people get a bad surgan and end up worse. But I feel if you do your home work you can have a great out come. I just didn't think by haveing the surgery I would condem myself from being able to go back to work ever again. Have to love the good old USA. Wish I was in Canada.
But thank you for sharing what your going threw. I hope and pray we all get the help we need.
Thanks again.
Ray.

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Ray,
Try and stay positive, I know it can very difficult at times. I have noticed with myself when I get down and out, I feel more pain in my back. I'm a year out of surgery and I think I'm starting to turn the corner with getting better. Give yourself some time. They say 18-24 months until your full healed and fused. My daughter broke her arm at gymnastics, both bones in her forarem and it took amost year for it to heal. Hers was not fusing and bone growth was very slow, everyone is different so be patient. Try and get your surgeon to help you with ssi. The more doctors you have behind you helps. I know attorneys take on cases for disability and will only require payment after they have gotten your case approved, may want to look into that. Again, stay positive and good luck!!

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i'm trying. i was under the impresion it was to be fully fused in six months.so that makes me feel alittle better. maybe it will take longer i just don't know. i just went by what the surgan told me. i feel great physically. just very down about the world today and how it is when hard working people get sick. i thank you for talking to me. sometimes even when i'm around people i feel alone in this. i'll be sure to talk to my surgan because he's going to have to help me. i can't live on 174.00 a month anymore. everyone that has helped me is feeling the burden. i'll keep you and everyone on here in my prayers.
very glad to hear you are doing very well. guess all we can do is keep the faith.
thanks again.
ray.

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Ray,
I was in your shoes when I was only 6 months out. Actually I think physically I was probably worse off. I just started in past few months feeling normal again. This surgeon is not for whimps. It takes a physical, mental and definetely financial toll on all. I knew I would never beable to go back to my job, I had hoped but deep down knew my surgeon wouldn't allow and I knew my work wouldn't take me back with my restrictions as well as I am a liablility now. I am lucky to be getting a nest egg but will probably save alot for retirement. How did you injury your back? Will keep you in my prayers, don't give up!

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Well they tell me I was born with spondylolsis.
But my family doctor new about it since I was 23 and in 2008 a ER doctor finally told me what was wrong. I called attorneys to see about sewing him but I can't prove I would have live a life of change so it wouldn't get worse. Back then it was just a crack. I'm very greatful for all the help getting to this point.
As in the surgery. I realy do feel so much better. And yes it takes very penny you have no matter how much help you get. But if I can't find a way to be some what financially secure for the future. I'm going to end up homeless. Never thought I'd get this close to it. All but one of my family members has back problems. And none of them can help. I live with my girlfriend and she is god sent. It scares her at time and makes me worried she may ask me to leave. I do all I can here for her as to earn my keep. But setting around day to day. Running out of things to do. Not being able to sleep because of so much thinking. Seems hopeless. The past few days I've been calm for a change. But have so much to do. Hoping to hear from demestics soon. I just hope she stopped it. She also is on disability and has for a long time. She has bad vertabras in her neck and lower back. Plus two anurizims in her head. And she has seizures. Seems we are all a mess. Like I said the X-rays show new bone growth but still a gap. I trust in god I do. But being human there's days I just don't understand why things are going they way they do. But one day at a time. I'm glad to hear you are finally starting to feel the posative results of your surgery. I don't know for me I guess I was so bad to begin with maybe that's why I bounced back so well. Like i said I was up walking a hour n a half after the surgery. That's going to be the hard part. To convince my surgan I need the disability for me and my kids. In his eyes I'm his star patient. He did a realy good job and I'm greatful. But I hope he sees the big picture. I need to be able to help take care of my girls. I thank you for the prayers. I real do. Im amazed every day just how many people have been praying for me. I hope your right that maybe it may take a year to fuse. It gives me hope and I thank you. Make sure you keep doing your exercises and to take vitamins and a calcium suplament. I'm sorry if I seem one sided. I haven't had a chance to read your page. I hope things get better for you. And I hope our next chat I'll be able to talk to you knowing what you have gone threw. Ounce again sorry for that. Just so cought up in my own missery I didn't talk to you about how you are coping and what you went threw. I'll talk to you soon.
Ray

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breadgirl
i've looked back and couldn't find your page.
i know you said yours was worked related. as i said its good to hear you are finaly feeling better then you were. me well i'm ok i guess. talked to my ex today and she said she got a paper from them and didn't indacate they were stopping the caes. ill have to call tomorrow to see what is up with it.
the stress of this is over taking me. not bad enough the surgary takes it toll. but the reminder of the money problems just does me in. i found by writting in my other jurnel its helping me let got of the anger and depression. i just hope no one finds it and reads it. probable lock me up.lol. but i did manage to get out today and clean my car off. took the dogs for a walk to. the weather has been so nice. days seem better but nights are still hard. just can't sleep. but one day at a time. i hope you get things settled with workmens comp. and i hope the rest of your days are peaceful and as pain free as can be.i thank you for chatting with me. it has helped. god bless you and keep me updated on how you are doing. it would help me allot if you did. this way i have a idea whats to be next.
thanks again and god bless.
ray

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Hi Ray,
I'm not sure if I have a page or if I even made one. By the way my name is Maryann, I use breadgirl cuz I used to work for a bread company. Any how, I worked for them for 10 years, became injured after 9yrs and filed work comp claim in april 2010 and waited till march 2011 for surgery. I did epidural shots which worked at first but I continued to do my job and it took its toll till my doctor put me on light duty and then finally workcomp had me evulated by there own spine surgeon who said i needed surgery. Long, painful wait but worth it. I do have ddd(degenerative disc disease) which is just disc drying up which of course is not good. I still have bulging disc in my upper neck but it has been 100% better since I am no longer working. Also have a tear in my l4-l5 but i guess over time your body can heal it and the reason that one was not fixed was because I had a discogram, google this procedure, was very painful but it does tell which disc is causing the pain and it only showed my l5-s1 was causing pain, so the surgeon felt don't fix what isn't broken. The only thing I want to tell you is you said you are taking morphine, be very careful with this drug. I was on it for 6months prior to surgery and after surgery they put me on norco(pain killer) fentyll patch(pain killer) the patch was to help wean me off the morphine. You can't just go cold turkey off morphine. That was the longest 3 months getting weaned off morphine. Trying to recovery from major surgery but going thru the worst withdrawls in the world. I was given withdraw medicine to help but it still was HORRIBLE! I received my settlement papers in the mail yesterday from my attorney and should be receiving my settlement in 6 weeks. I still need to find a job, had an interview with Herseys candy company so will have to wait and see what happens. The settlement money plan on putting away for retirement, just hoping don't have to dig into it. The weather has been great here(indiana) and I been trying to clean up lawn, walking my dogs, did try and ride my bike but that was not too good. Probably need different type of bike, too much leaning foward and made my back uncomfortable. I think this surgery helps with the pain and fixes the problem but I think all of us will be limited functions. I don't think you can ever be 100% again. I'm trying to just get back to normal. I just have alot of fear and do not want to every go thru that pain or surgery again, so I may be overly cautious at times.I have 2 screws, 1 rod and an articifical disc. Do you have equipment as well? Hope things start to go better for you. I think having that journal is probably good idea, get out your feelings that maybe sometimes you can't tell others, good to get it out and not hold it in. Keep in touch

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hi maryann
yes i know all to well about the morphine.i guess i was on 45mg of morphine extand tads plus baclafen as well as percaset for about a year before my surgery. two days after i came home from the hospital i went cold turkey on all the meds i was taking. i went threw 9 days of hell. but i did it. i know what it is to go threw extrem with draw.no it wasn't a good idea on my part. but i did it for two reasons. when i came home from the hospital i was so impacted from all the drugs i was extremly angry. it took me 3 hours to clean out my bowls. wasn't bad enough i have a 8 inch cut up my back now i had to get my bowls cleared. and the other reason was to see what pain level i was at after the repair to my back. funny thing was was after i got clean of the meds the only thing that hurt was the cut. and even then i was able to take it with out any pain meds. when i went to do a fallow up with my pain clinic he wanted me back on two for the nerve damage because my legs wouldn't stop twiching. and a low dose of the morphine fast acting tab. to be taken as needed. i don't take the morphine every day so my body hasn't had a chance to get use to a rewteen of it. if i need or want to stop takeing it i can and i know it won't be like the 9 days of hell as before. i hate taking pills. but days were i'm very active like ill clean the house do laundry and wash the car. the muscles over the hardware get very sore and tight. it get so i then take the morphine and i'm great. but most days were i just walk the dogs or fart around the house i just don't need it. i admitt i'm 98% back to being the old normal me. but i have two 7 inch rods side by side with 6 screws in my back now. from the L4 down to my pelvis. this was all done threw my back. some people get it done from the front. but with spondylolthese it had to be done from the back. yes i have had the bad luck of not haveing a job when this took place. so i have nothing to go back to. plus even if it did happen at my old job. they would have let me go on the spot. i was blessed to come out of the surgery so well. but now to earn a living for me and my girls isn't going to happen. i got a little good news. i got in touch with domestics today and i faxed then the letter to close the case. my ex made sure to email it to me. but when i called they said they never got a letter from her. so i had sure they did. i called her and let her know everything and so far she is willing to help. i'm trying to live with this dissease but the dissease is makeing it hard for me to live. i have my good days were i'm ok and not depressed. but then i get the days were i just can't speak of it. just on day at a time right now. i'm still looking forward to the future. just seems out of reach right at the momment. i know things will work out just the stress of it all every day get me. but its great to hear your back to being active in your day to day living. i to have DDD as well as a buldging disc in my L2 and L3. but it doesn't bother me right now. but if i lean back real far then i feel it. but most of all this is i learned to live with it all these years so it don't bug me to much. i have a high tolerance to pain. always did. but when i got to the point i couldnt get out of bed because of my back i knew i had no choice anymore. i'm glad i did it. i would do it again even knowing what i know now. i hope we both continue to get better every day. and hopfully we both can get back to a job that we can live on and not hurt ourselfs in the prosses. i thank you for talking with me maryann. thank you for informing me that it can still fuse just may take longer. just wish my surgan would have told me that instead of just six months. ill keep you in my prayers as well as all here that are in pain. talk to you soon.
also please for give my writing and spelling. two days with out sleep is a killer.
ray

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Ray, I feel your pain. I had an L5/S1 posterior AND anterior spinal fusion a year and a half ago. 8 titanium screws, rods and an artificial disc. I'm recovering well after lots of physical therapy and walking every day. Dealt with severe depression as well, having to rely on family/boyfriend physically and financially definitely took an emotional toll on me and on them as well. It wasn't until I hired a well-known disability attorney in my city who fought my case and won it for me, did my life get less stressful. I wouldn't recommend trying to apply for SSDI on your own. I tried twice before I found my attorney and they denied me both times. Such a waste of my time, wish I would've hired an attorney from the start. The disability judges and the entire judicial system seem to only responds to attorneys (their own kind I guess), they don't really like you representing yourself. They good thing is that a disability attorney only takes no more than 20% of your settlement once they win your case (I don't know about in PA but I'm in Calif) so you don't have to pay anything up front. And they get nothing if they don't win it, which is a great incentive for them to work hard on your case. In Calif, it's actually illegal for a disability attorney to charge up front fees. Not sure if this is federal law. An attorney makes the process of applying for disability less stressful and much easier for you. Do your research online, talk to people in your city until you find a reputable one. I received backpay for the entire time I was out of work and continue to receive payments through my recovery. What a difference that makes in one's recovery! Stress is a killer. If not for family, I would've ended up homeless too with no income for so long. I have lots of tips on filing for disability, everything I learned through trial and error. I'd be happy to share them with you but it's just too much to post here. If you want me to email it to you, I can. As far as your bones fusing together successfully, I took lots of vitamin supplements to make sure they did and boy did it help! Strontium by Doctor's Best is a bone building supplement that must be used with calcium and vitamin D everyday. Most doctors won't tell you that these supplements help (mine didn't) but doing my research on my own and talking to other fusion patients, I learned that you have to be proactive about your health and natural remedies are very beneficial to your recovery. Pumping you full of prescription drugs is a doctor's only answer. Like you, they all made me so sick so I sought other natural ways of managing my pain. I believe that helped me recover faster and successfully. I've known too many patients with back pain that ended up addicted to prescription drugs and with kidney, stomach and liver damage. And I'm not going through all of this and putting my loved ones through this just to end up more messed up than how I started. Stay strong.

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spondy619
i have good days and bad. seems the reality of it hits harder at night. no not addicted to the pain meds. i've been makeing sure only to take what has been perscribed and only when i truly need it. just sucks to know after all this that i went threw dashed my hopes of being able to get a job again. i know there are many other people going threw the same thing. but i just struggle trying to figure this all out. two steps forward then bam brick wall. i just have to take this a day at a time. is good though to hear things are going well for you. keep pushing forward with your recovery. thank you for the uplifting words. ill keep you in my prayers.
ray

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@Spondy 619,
Got my decision on social security hearing before the ADJ,and it was unfavorable.I spent the whole weekend crying last weekend.They do say i am precluded from doing my previous work as an RN,and that i have a whole bunch of permanent restistions,Unfortunately there was a vocational worker there who said i could do an appointment clerk job,mind you this is a minimum wage job and i would probably have to work 40 hours plus a week to make a fraction of what i made as a nurse.....so DEGRADING !Anyhow ,i have already gotten in so much debt and i was really counting on the back pay.I have binder and binder and they will appeal to the next level now.I had an L5-S1 lumbar fusion a year ago,and still have a possible neck surgery and then removal of hardware in back.What do you think about my case,and could you share some tips?I am sad that i have lost my past career,and now have to fight the system to get some pay back,after they took it from my checks all these years.Thanks for listening and would appreciate feedback from anyone.
Blessings,
Nurse Nancy

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Nancy
Keep your chin up.
Disability has its share of prosses just as it was to go threw the surgery.
Everyone gets turned down the first time.
You did the right thing.
Attorneys will get the win for you.
Here in PA I called a attorney and I was told you have to be turned down before they can help.
You as well as myself fit five of the cry terriers for SSDI.
I check the site to see if I was able to apply.
Under part A adults I fit five maybe six of there rules to get disability.
So this is just the first step of what could be three to get the disability.
It took my aunts husband three tries before he got his.
Took my sister two tries.
And my ex got hers the first but she met allot more of there standards of being disabled.
The good thing going threw a attorney is they get you the max.
My sister did it herself and only got 450.00 a month.
After she called an got a attorney she got more.
So it's apart of jumping threw the hoop for the government.
Congress doesn't want you to have your money.
We work all our lives and do the right thing.
But they don't care.
We all know no one can live on minumom wage.
So keep fighting.
You'll get it.
They just want you to work for it.
You'll be in my prayers.
Ray.

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WOW,
I don't know if I feel better or worse knowing how many people out there are experiencing this.
Just the emotional aspect is at times debilitating, like treading water wearing concrete shoes. I was hurt at work which resulted in having a two level ALIF in 2007. 3 months later I went back to work and for the most part did well.
In Feb 2011 I hurt my upper back while operating a snow blower for 4 hrs in -10 degrees. I went down hill pretty fast. Every night I was in tears. The company that I worked for made work hell for me and I finally quit when I couldn't stand the pain any longer. That was in April of 2011.
I have been through all the usual therapies and I feel a bet better, but as soon as I move wrong the pain is back.
W/C is paying for the Dr., P.T., etc. But I recieve no $, probably because I quit.
At least I have experience with meds and know what NOT to do this time around so that's good. (Morphine is not my friend!)
Ray, this will drive u nuts if u let it. This seems like a good place where people understand and don't judge. That's so important as it can be very isolating not working and feeling hopeless. Keep your chin up. I look forward to more posts from everyone.
Thanx for reading my "broken record" :)

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upandown,
sorry to hear you are hurt again. Back problems are so trying and unless someone has had it, they can't understand. My fiance can get fustrated with me at times. He has been awesome thru all of this but still gets irritated with me. I am not working, I was let go by my company, they would not and could not meet the restrictions my surgeon gave after my surgery. I have been receiving workcomp since jan 2011, surgery march 2011 and was let go in feb of 2012. I am receiving a settlement from my work for the back injury. Its great but I still need to find a job. Been filling out apps, and nothing! Very depressing. Had an interview, but have heard nothing yet. I need a job or i'm gonna go crazy. I haven't worked since sept of 2011. very boring staying home and doing nothing. Good luck to you and hope you feel better soon

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upanddown
your not a broken record. yes its nice to be able to come here and try to find answers and to give some. i'm going momday to see my family doctor for medication for the depression. with me it's as though the broken record is in my head. thats why i can't sleep. the trying to figure out whats the next step or if there is even one. there has to be a way to get threw this. sorry to hear your in pain again. and that you too are struggling with finances as well. i'm doing my best to keep my spirits up. thank you for your supportive words. i'll keep you in my prayers as well. thank you again.

breadgirl
i know what you mean about the spouce. i don't know what i would do if my girlfriend wasn't there. in the same sence she has done her best to hang in there and deal with me and all the problems.i know its just as hard on her as me. but i can say she doesn't walk in my shoes so she can't fully understand what it's like. in all i'm in good health just not enough to live as i did before. feels like looseing both my legs in a sence. i wish i had answers. we all do. maybe the good lord will throw me a bone. : ) i will keep everyone in my prayers. god bless you all.
ray.

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@NurseNancy - sorry to hear your bad news. How terrible! Sounds like you have a really strong case compared to mine. So sorry to hear Binder & Binder failed you. Are they a law firm based in California? I'd be happy to share what I've learned in getting a favorable decision, too long to post on here so if you'd like me to email you, let me know.

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Hi Ray,
I actually got denied on the third time before the ADJ,i guess i don't physically from the outside don't fit the desciption of someone who is disabled.Truth is ,i try to put on my happy face,positive attitude ,and armor of faith every day,but inside i am hurting so bad(meaning back and neck issues,add to that now a left elbow bursitis that won't go away)I am pending two more surgeries with work comp.hardware removal and neck surgery.I just want to cry,and yes i am really fighting the depression.I can't ever go back to my job as a nurse,as just about anything that i try to exert myself in causes pain.You all hang in there,praying for each and every one of you.
Blessings,
Nurse Nancy

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Nurse nancy.
Very sorry to hear.
Yes I'm sure I will have the same problem. No I don't look sick on the outside.
But like all of us things are broken inside. Nancy that I know of there is no limit to apealing there rulling.
Get another attorney. Keep fighting them. Don't give up. We are all in the same boat one way or another. I think I made a mistake in getting the surgery. Now I'm not in pain they will think the same of me. But do to the fact I need pain meds to be normal they won't let me do the only job I know. Like you. I don't have resource to go back to school. Not to mention I'm still not fused. I will fight even if it means I have to live on the streets. There is no way I will risk working a minumom wage job and breaking the hardware for a job I can't survive on. I won't go under the knife again for no one. I understand how upsetting this is. I do. Get something for the depression first. Ask god for strength and keep fighting. I know in my heart you can get the disability. I'm praying for god to give us all the strength we need. Hold off on the other surgeries for now till you win your case. They don't need another reason to say your fixed. Believe me I have hit bottom with the depression. Thinking things I shouldn't. But I won't. No matter what. Find your strength and start again. I've been reading my bible so much it passes the day.
I'm doing my very best to be strong. We all have a big medical problems. Not to mention the added stress of children spouses family and friends adding to it. I have to block out my fears. Not easy to do but I know I have to. I have to take each step one by one. And when I can't I know the good lord will carry me till I can. Faith. Don't loose it. I'm doing all I can to strengthen mine. Please don't give up. I will be praying for you and all of us. I know the problems we face are just bumps in the road. God will provide. I wish I had better news to share with you and everyone. But we fought to get this far. Can't stop now. Keep in touch. I'm always here to listen. As well as to help any way I can.
Ray

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I never thought about the drug screening for employment...I am so screwed...
I was actually just thinking I need to take a lortab and clean house a little. What chance do I have at gaining employment grrrrrrrrrr. On the up side, at least the meds do take care of the pain. Of course there's always a down side but crossing bridges before I come to them does nothing but cause sleepless nights.
Does anyone else just get tired of putting their happy head on and pretending? I just want to scream at the injustice. See how I am, no sooner than I wrote that, I'm feeling guilty because this could be so much worse. Then again, knowing it could be worse doesn't negate my own misery.
Well, sitting here won't get the baby a new coat, or a clean house! I ditched P.T. today, Monday I felt better than I had In a long time, then after P.T. I felt like some-one had mistaken me for a punching bag and had one hell of a work out. So the rest of Monday and Tuesday I was in the "drug fog."
I feel for those who have kids that u need to provide for, ( mine are grown). I know what it's like to take too many meds in order to work to bring in some $'s...Desperate measures... I'll never judge anyone again. ( Never say never right? ).
u r all an inspiration to me,
Thankyou.

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upanddown,
I am on tramadol and I am currently in the interview process for a job! yes I said it a JOB! No one wants to hire me, or should I say I can't apply for alot of job cuz I have restrictions and I dare not tell any of the potential employers about my back, hell no then I'm a liability. back to drug screening. i don't know if tramadol will show up but if it does, I have legal script and I'm on low dose. I plan on saying its for migrains. My work comp is going to run out soon and I will be eligible to apply for unemployment since my work let me go, but that weekly payment will probably be peanuts. I have my settlement coming but plan on putting it away for retirement. Glad i'm not in PT anymore. I used to come home from it feeling like a bus ran me over, geez! Good luck to ya

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Tramadol doesn't show up on drug test.. I just had 1 and if any drugs show up, as long as you have a prescription from your doctor.. they will not show your future employer.. I just went through this in February 2012

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hi ray i just had surgery also,nov 28th 2011 they took cushions L1thru L5 and fused those also took for the bone they used what they scraped off spine they also installed 2 rods and 8 screws. had a apointment other day my bones have fused together and I got rid of a brace and a walker now im in therapy to get muscles lose again. all in 4months not to bad. I dont no if you have gotten a disabilty lawyer you need to find one they can answer all the questions they have to be able to what the gov wants them to take for there work.It took me three years to get mine.. the clocks art ticking from the day you file. you will have to go to social security office to see how much you will get. a month. if you have worked lots of years then great you should be ok, If you havnt worked very much you wont get much. good luck

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LARRY A WETER
you must be a fast healer. very happy for you that you have fused in such a short time.
just make sure you take it slow and take care of your self. yes it will take time for me to get the ball rolling on the bisability. got to see the doctor first to see if he will back me. as i said in my past notes. i have drove truck all my life. i've worked since i was in 11th grade in high school. i'm 40 now and i should have enough time in to get something back that i can live off of. but its the fight. do to the fact i have drove cdl over the road and many other jobs were i handled large machinery as well as assembly lines. with me being on and needing a low dose of pain medican. i won't be able to find gainful employment. most companies today drug screen you even before the offer the job to you. in there minds wether a doctor prescribes it to you or not your a risk of injuring yourself or someone else. yes there maybe some mom and pop jobs out there were they don't drug test you. but you won't make a wage to survive on. some people have been turned away from minimum wage jobs as they are told your over qualified for this position. in short these jobs are for high school kids trying to get a foot in the door. or college kids trying to work and do school at the same time. i think the biggest problem is kids back in the day that came into companies high on pot ended up doing something that caused the companies to drug test everyone. there insurance companies made them do it. after so many times of employes comeing to work stoned and doing damage mest it up for allot of us. i have seem if for my own eyes over the years of working. but this realy isn't about that. this is about the 1990 bisability act. meaning disabled americans have the right to work as well as earn a gainful work wage like everyone else. to many laws conflicting with other laws to prevent us from supporting ourselves as well as our families. everyone has there own spin on it. but i'm in the trenches fighting for what i under the 1990 disability act deserve like so many of us on here deserve. if i can't make a wage to live on whats the purpuse. if i can't get disability why am i paying all theses years into social security. so were does that leave all of us.but life goes on. i will take day by day and i hope and pray i will find a way to resolve this problem. as i said i went threw this surgery for me and my kids. i was told in six months i would be fused. and i'm not. i was told by someone on here that it could take longer and to not give up hope. i won't risk breaking hardware in my back for a job flipping burgers because the government says i have to. even if i could i wouldn't. just can't survive on it. its good though to see some people on here have alittle safety net. as in they were working when this happened to them. so they have workmens comp settlements coming plus unemployment. for me i wasn't so lucky. i was on unemployment when i had to have the surgery. now its gone and i'm in dire straits and have no idea were to begin. but ill make it. but keep up the good work larry. god bless you. i'll keep everyone in my prayers.
ray.

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UPANDDOWN
take one day at a time. sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders from the way you talk.
you know that worrying won't help. you said it yourself. in your own way. yes i to am greatful at least the meds kill the pain. but like most of us you see the up hill battle it will be. i know none of us expected this either. it will be one of two. we find jobs we can do and can live on. or fight and get the disability we payed into. i wish my kids were grown but my ex is on disability and now the girls get nothing from me now. all i ever wanted was to work and help raise my kids. i want to do my part. but we all have to keep calm including me and take it one problem at a time. sometimes the things we read on the web can scare the hake out of us. but if we all do what we need to we can reach our goals. the old saying is life isn't fair. but we all have equal rights. so if cleaning takes your mind off things then thats great. me i listen to allot of music. and i read the bible. it helps me. but for my depression i need some help. i'll get the meds on monday for that. it does help i was on it when i lost my marrage in 2000. but its just one more pill i'll hate taking. i'll keep you and evreyone in my nightly prayers. god bless you. be strong.
ray.

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hi ray I guess i forgot to tell you I broke my back at age 19 they also repaired . another thing i want to ask you is are you wearing a bone simulater. if not talk to dr about it . it makes the fusions grow faster, I wear mine every morning for 30 minutes. I walk alot and we have a whirlpool its very warm i do it every morning also. anyway I hope you get betr. the walking helps me relieve stiffness.

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Hi Ray,

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