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Severe spinal stenosis at L-4/5-Question ????

Started by mtorre on 08/16/2014 9:31am

I am a 54 year old woman who was just dx with "severe spinal stenosis". Orthopedic dr. said I am young to have this condition, to this degree. Of course he recommends surgery. I will start with PT and of course get a second opinion before jumping into surgery. My question is has anyone had success with other treatments besides surgery? Are any nutrients helpful in retarding stenosis? I am not in too much pain presently, but I cannot walk for more than 1/2 mile or so. Also for those of you who had surgery, did a Orthopedic or a Neurosurgeon perform the operation, and were your results beneficial?
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Hi..I to had severe spinal stenosis, with degenerative disc disease. At age 54 like you. I am 65 now and if I didn't have my surgery 10 years ago, I would be in a wheel chair now. My surgery was on L2, L3, L4 and L5. As with any surgery there are risks..but I figured it was better than a wheel chair. Especially if you have arthytis it will only get worse. PT didn't help me at all. Like you, I could barely walk. So...anyway I saw a Neurologist and he did my surgery. I don't want to scare you..but make sure your neurologist is one of the best. Mine was alright..but a nerve was nicked and it left me with neuropathy. He says he never said that..but myself and my husband heard him say that. I also have a herniated discs and he never said what to do with that. My suggestion to you is,if you can get another opinion or two. And to my knowledge there are no nutrient s to help. Most of the time it's heredity and over use or injury..I made road signs for over 20 yrs...heavy duty work. ....please let me know how you are doing because I litteraly feel your pain. My thoughts are with you. If you do deside for the surgery.. Try not to overdue anything and take it slow.

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Hi..I to had severe spinal stenosis, with degenerative disc disease. At age 54 like you. I am 65 now and if I didn't have my surgery 10 years ago, I would be in a wheel chair now. My Laminectomy surgery was on L2, L3, L4 and L5. As with any surgery there are risks..but I figured it was better than a wheel chair. Especially if you have arthytis it will only get worse. PT didn't help me at all. Like you, I could barely walk. So...anyway I saw a Neurologist and he did my surgery. I don't want to scare you..but make sure your neurologist is one of the best. Mine was alright..but a nerve was nicked and it left me with neuropathy. He says he never said that..but myself and my husband heard him say that. I also have a herniated discs and he never said what to do with that. My suggestion to you is,if you can get another opinion or two. And to my knowledge there are no nutrient s to help. Most of the time it's heredity and over use or injury..I made road signs for over 20 yrs...heavy duty work. ....please let me know how you are doing because I litteraly feel your pain. My thoughts are with you. If you do deside for the surgery.. Try not to overdue anything and take it slow.

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I was in such pain from my late 40s (and a widow at 49) until I was 59 early this Spring. I was first diagnosed with herniated discs in my lumbar spine (L3,L4...) and received epidurals every 3 months with no relief. Norco, Percocet you name it; nothing touched the pain. I was then diagnosed with Spinal Stenosis and encroaching arthritis. I was in my late 50s and could barely walk. After 2 opinions, I had a spinal laminectomy 5/13/14. It's now 9/1/14 and I am continuing P/T 3 days a week for the rest of the month. It has been very painful and difficult, but I am getting better. My surgeon told me initially that it would take 6-12 months for a full recovery. I turned 60 in July so I'm hoping for a Merry Christmas this year! I didn't have a choice. Like one of the others in the group said, my next stop would have been a wheel chair. The younger & healthier you are when you have surgery the better because you need every ounce of strength you can harness. Good luck with your decision making. Lynne

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Lynn:

I am 80 years old and have had back problems forever. Now it is crucial. My spine surgeon has indicated he will remove spurs on my spine and take care of my stenosis. This will relieve pressure on my spine which should take away my pain and make walking possible. Who was your surgeon?

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My surgeon is in Barrington, Illinois. His name is Gregory Brebach, MD and he is with Lake Cook Orthopedics. My surgery took place at Advocate Good Shepherd Hospital.

My beloved 85 year old mother has lived with scoliosis all of her life. She spent her youth through high school in "a full neck to end of her spine brace" trying to straighten her spine. After all of those years, it did not work! My VERY ACTIVE mom's spine is now 98% twisted. She's gone from 5'7" to 5'5" tall. She is my hero and the best example of a strong woman that I know.

Straightening mild scoliosis was part of my surgery. I had gone from 5'9" to 5'8".

I pray you find the help you need. I don't know why God has let you be in pain for 80 years, but I will do the only thing I can and that is pray you find comfort. God bless you, Lynne

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I am 56 and had my thorax region fused in the late
70's . I am 90 days out of lower lumbar fused all the
Way down to tail bone.. Was way easier at 14 than
57. I was tired of the shots and RF and therapy of all
Kinds. I am so happy I had the surgery. Was a. 10
Hr surgery so I do have some nerve damage with my
Left leg. Hoping it subsides but I can walk, shop, go
Places. My quality of life 90% better ! Had 2 great Dr's
And I am tough but I am 85% pain free so after being
In pain for last 5 yrs every day sitting the last. 2 yrs I am
Over the top happy with my fusions , hardware and all.
You have to be strong and never give up. !

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thank you very much for the encouraging responses. I usually have my doctors associated with the Cleveland Clinic. Year to date I have had a knee replacement and hip replacement. I am having difficulty walking and, like one response stated, spend much time in my chair. I will make an appointment with a recommended surgeon this next week to get his input on surgery and what would be a good time considering my history so far this year. It sounds so good to hear that most probably I could go out for a walk, do some shopping, and believe it or not, I could do some housework. Thanks for such an encouraging response.

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Hi - not sure where you are at in your journey with spinal stenosis . Just want to let you know I have been living with severe spinal stenosis and grade 1-2 soomdelyethesis for past 5 years doing the natural therapies vs spinal surgery successfully.

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Hi - not sure where you are at in your journey with spinal stenosis . Just want to let you know I have been living with severe spinal stenosis and grade 1-2 soomdelyethesis for past 5 years doing the natural therapies vs spinal surgery successfully.

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This is for Ashleigh

You talk about natural therapies. Can you please expound on your experience.
I would say I am midway through my lumbar laminectomy and fusion surgery.
Recovery has been good but not back to 85%. The neurosurgeon said he could not give me 100%.

That is ok with me. Since I am getting up there in age. I don't expect perfection. LOL.
But I do expect some relief and if I can find it without medication, I will.

Please, If you will, tell us your experience with natural therapies.

Thank you Ashleigh,
GOD Bless You!

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Hi - it's Ashleigh again. I have a difficult time trying to use this site … but hopefully this will reach you.
In January 2010 I was diagnosed with moderate [marked] degenerative changes L4-5; facet joint stress fracture; grade 2 spondylolisthesis of L4 on L5; uncovering of a disc which bulges posteriorly; and severe spinal stenosis. The neurosurgeon recommended laminectomy and fusion L4-5. He told me the surgery should last 7 - 10 years then I would need more surgery. I declined. Initially and for many many months I was in acute pain and could not walk without severe pain. I persevered with natural therapies … and today i report I can [on a good day walk for one hour with no pain but still have numb outside of my left foot often. I swim a kilometre a day [most days]. I take one day off a week from the pool to walk an hour. {this is my way of 'cross training'}. I have learned to listen to my body, My pain is my friend. Before I was injured I was on the go [other than when I was sleeping 24-7]. I have had to totally re priorize my whole life. I refuse to use pain medication until absolutely necessary. There are so many things I can not do - but I focus on the positives and stay away from negative people, places, and things. I have gotten to where I am today by the use of acupuncture, massage therapy, reflexology, medical osteopathy, physic, kinesiology, and core strengthening exercises. I hope this is helpful to you. Ashleigh

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Last November I had surgery on the 4th and 5th lumbar area. The vertebras were shaved to make more room for the spine and the disks were fused. I no longer have sciatic pain. My back is weak and limits my endurance when walking, cooking, etc. I am doing water exercise and exercise at home. I guess it takes a little time to get stronger.

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In my experience my recovery process from lower spinal issues has taken a very long time (I am now at the 5.5 year mark). I am in a state of healing but will never be able to do what I did pre injury. For me it's really important to not stop doing what I'm doing and never to give up hope

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