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scared to death of withdrawal

Started by honeybee2012 on 08/07/2012 6:37pm

i recently failed a drug screen at my pain management doctor due to an honest mistake. I kept my "old" vicodin{just 1} that i had in a pill box and made a stupid life changing mistake. I got off work at 3 am and grabbed along with my usual muscle relaxer and ibuprofen so i could sleep. I woke up the next morning and realized that i had taken it. I have been prescribed 6 percocet 10 mg a day for a year now. Like a vicodin was gonna do any good-seriously! It showed up in my drug sceen{oral} couple days later. My doctor kicked me out of his practice a month later.
I was referred to a new pain management doctor who was horrible to me! He would not prescribe me anything-not even Motrin. He gave me this stupid machine to wear-a TENS Unit. It is inconvenient and not practical for my life at all. It feels nice but doesn't help my pain of a herniated disc and bulging discs and sciatica.plus i have undiagnosed upper back pain. It would be nice to have in combination with medication for those rainy days where the pain is unbearable.
Has anyone ever found another doctor to help them with medication after a failed drug screen?? I am losing my home of 12 yrs next month and have to move. I cannot even imagine how i will do it! Please help!!

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I live in NH and interventional spine medicine in barrington and laconia are good people and realize we as humans make mistakes all you'd have to do there is piss clean the next time if you're not in this area go to a different pain clinic on your own

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I just went through 10 days of morphine withdrawal after being on it for 7 years. I wanted to get off the crap, but also wanted to do it gradually, but like you I failed a piss test. I had been asking him for other alternatives and he stated that we'd get there in time, but when I told him that I've been to the point for 7 1/2 years and we talked about neuro stimulation. I had a tens unit from Febuary until a month ago when I went through the neuro stimulator trial period. Tens units have nothing on this stimulator....my pain went from a 9 down to a 1. I then opted to have it permanently implanted and here I am a week later still healing up, but the pain is nothing compared to what it was. I only have pain where the surgery sites are, which is about three inches on my back and three inches on my upper right butt cheek. I go back to pain mgmt in two weeks and probably get another piss test, but I'm not really worried about it, what are they gonna do? Take out my implant? NOT. I don't really need pain meds right now...I'm just on Lyrica and amitryptaline (SIC) plus hydro for break through surgery pain, which I haven't taken in two days.
What I'm trying to say is talk to this new pain mgmt dr and see if you can get on a trial for the neuro stimulator, it may just work for you. I was told a long time ago that it wouldn't work for back pain just for leg pain...bull crap, it works for all of my back and leg pain. It's absolutely worth it.

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I was just going through some older posts and came across this thread. I came off hydromorphone suddenly and suffered withdrawals. I pray to God I never have to do that again.
I'm very interested in this stimulator that's been mentioned. It hasn't been offered to me yet as I haven't been to a "pm clinic." ( My pain been managed by my pcm for years, although she has moved now and this will change shortly.) I went to see a new Dr. who took my pcm's place and was told I was taking too many "downers." I take 1 muscle relaxer, ( the bare minimum of what is prescribed.) the Butrans patch with lortab for breakthrough pain. At this time, ( Since her comment about too many "downers") I don't take anything for sleep or depression. I had to take off the Butrans patch for a myelogram this week so I'm going to be short on those, but I'll suffer through it.
The idea of the nuero stim is appealing, espcecially if it means no more pain meds, and all that goes with them.
Any more info on how this works would be appreciated. Do I have to go through a "pain clinic" to get one? etc...

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honeybee, I'm so sorry for your situation, I would be in the same boat if I had been the "bread winner" in my household.
I have looked at pain management, "agreements" and wonder how on earth anyone could even think for a moment they would work! There's too many variables in life to "promise" anything. It seems to me, anyone signing one of these are being are set -up for failure. I understand without one, most people wont get the meds they need to function, but really, do the Dr's expect them to work?
I don't even know what to say to help you out, but I'm sure you're not the only one out here that has had this happen. I hope, with "refreshing this thread, more people will post on it.
Hang in there. :)

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Hi honeybee, What kind of a Drug test do they put you through. Vicodin and Perocet are amost alike they have the same active ingredient. Did you tell them what you did? I bet you did, they would of never known. I wish you lived near me I could help you. I know how to work the ER`s and PM.I get more meds then I need now. I would say go to the ER where your doctor not affilated with, Get hooked up with another PM from there. Sam

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hi honeybee I have been on vicoden for a long time after a while pain relivers stop helping. and I was getting tired of taking it. I broke my back at age 19 and 40 year later I had it fixed and all the bad discs in the lumbar area. one of these days you will get tired of being on this pain stuff., I dont take vicoden anymore. I had a fusion L1 thru L4 8 screws and two rods. if i walk im pain free. if I dont I have some muscle pain.

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Dear Honeybee, this posting is kind of old but I will reply. Hydrocodone and percocet are in the same opiate family. You say you have been prescribed the percocet. How could this negatively effect your drug screen? If you are in chronic pain like me. I had to sign a contract which is no big deal. I do not do street drugs at all. I have had to take urine tests once for my kids custody. (I got them back, after the state took them from Mom.) All is well there now, Mom gets them often. I am being scrutinized heavily though. What I am getting at though is that like my situation. I have to be very cautious and never do anything wrong. I take methadone for chronic hip pain. I have a bad heart so I cannot have corrective surgery. It is a trade off anymore. Very much so these days! After MJ's death or any celebrity who has died from narcotic overdose from misuse. They are very suspicious now, even though you might be the pope? You trade the old life style (I grew up in the 70s). You do not EVER do anything that will raise a suspicion or they will cut your meds off. In your situation maybe now it is better? I think over time they or some doctor will forgive your past and write them for you again? Return the tens unit for a refund or keep it for when you get meds again. It will go good with pain meds. Do not ever forget what you have learned! Even though anytime I get a test I am clean for other drugs. I have the same doc write prescriptions and I go to the same pharmacy. I still get treated like a drug addict! It is SO not fair!! Good luck!

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This whole situation is so sad, and unfair. I hope that Dr.'s, and surly some do, feel for their patients. All this was done to protect us, and to try to control the flood of narcotics on the streets. But cause and effect being in play, the effect is under treating pain patients and treating us like we've done something wrong by simply wanting treatment.
Pain Dr.'s and their patients. Wow, what to say. They hold all the cards. There's very rarely mutual respect, due to the lack of trust implied by the signing of contracts and such. It's a tough one for sure. I understand the problem, but I have no idea of the remedy. But this is NOT the answer. Patients deserve to be treated and Dr.'s should have the freedom to treat them. At the moment it's a lose-lose situation.
The scary thing for me is, I KNOW I would break the law to get out of pain. Whether it be asking a friend for pain meds to smoking pot. I'm human, and this much chronic pain is NOT a natural state for the human body. Therefore my body chemistry is altered, it's a fact I live with. It's altered with long term narcotic use as well. Dang, I sound hopeless. What's worse is I'm feeling hopeless, right now anyway.
It's like the old joke..."Dr, it hurts when I do this." and he replies, "Then stop doing it!" Chronic pain is there no matter what we do, or don't do. That is the most helpless feeling.
Sorry for the mood of this post. Now I know why I usually just read, not write.

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I know how you feel about hopeless.

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hello honeybee I had my stim put in about 6 yrs ago I never had any agreement to not take norco or anything else after getting the stim unit I went ahead and had 4 level fusion 2 years later I just could'nt get the settings right and now I'am still in pain and final got the setting where it helps alot but not enough to stop taking opoids antidepresents and about 5 other meds Hang in there and just find another doctor your in pain and in control of your life.

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It truly is so sad what we have to endure. Having been on mild pain medication for 22 years with zero problem from my Rheumatologist, I was SHOCKED by the treatment dished out by "Pain Management Doctors" after going through an anterior/posterior Lumbar Fusion of L3 to S1 followed by Cervical Fusion of C5,6,7. I've recently had 4 Family members pass away in a 3 month time period ~ my Husband had to rush me to the ER one night when my blood pressure was 169/139, I thought I was having a stroke; turns out my thyroid level was at 60 (hypothyroid) ~ ER ran many tests, gave me a shot of Ativan to slow heart rate and sent me home w/3 prescriptions. It was late, I did not look at them as my Husband got them filled for me. Had an appt w/Pain Med Doc couple of days later and I told the PA (hate 'em) about the incident. Her ONLY concern was "WELL I HOPE YOU DIDN'T GET ANY PAIN MEDICATION" REALLY?? Well as it turns out ~ the ER Doc had written a script for 12 percocets (which I did NOT need, and did not ask for) and because of this I received a Certified Letter 2 weeks later discharging me as a patient after I'd been a "perfect patient" for 2 years.

Sucks to be treated like a peace of shit drug addict when you're a 47 yr old woman living in chronic pain.

Good Luck ~ stay tough guys :)

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Hi Tonia, if you didn`t take them go and talk to your doctor at PM. Tell the doc the truth that`s what I would do. If they don`t take you back turn them into your insurance company and whatever state agencies. If it was a different pill ( not what ur taking daily) or for some another problem,I could get them in New York. I hope it just happened. Sam

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first of all-THANK YOU for your responses to my pleas for help! I am truly touched. To answer some of your questions regarding the failed drug test, my PM DR. did the mouth swab on me. I guess it is more accurate than a urinalysis. That showed the difference between the percocet and vicodin.
That simple mistake almost cost me my life I am in a state of severe depression now.
. I found a pain management doctor a month later who agreed to treat me.{MOST wouldn't even see me because of a failed drug screen!My own primary care Dr. wouldn't give me anything at all for pain!!!! unbelievable!} I have been seeing this new PM Dr. since August 2012. He recommends surgery to replace my torn disc since the epidurals do not work at all. This is something i cannot pay for so it is not even an option.So now I have to go see him EVERY month for medication which is costing me a fortune. I have since developed severve anxiety problem because he insists on being conservative with the pain meds.I really do respect what he is trying to do but I suffer so much and now I have to worry about him reducing my medicines even more everytime I go to see him.
Now I have dangerously high blood pressure,severe depression&anxiety.sleep problems on top of the pain! All of which he is treating me for!I am scared I will have a heart attack anyday now because the pain gets so intense .. I didn't need all that other medicine when my pain was under control! These Pain doctors need to take a step back and quit assuming we are all after drugs!! WE ARE IN UNBEARABLE PAIN!!
After going through all this I have come to the realization that every doctor has an extremely different diagnosis and/or treatment idea than the other doctors. It is quite scary to think how this so misunderstood in the medical community.
Good luck to you all and just pray we get through this!

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