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Groin Pain, Spinal Stenosis severe L5 Herniated disk

Started by pmracc33186 on 04/27/2010 10:02pm

Hello,

I am 45 male in overall good shape avid road bicycle rider. I had a ruff landing while snowboarding early March , landed on my feet but felt sharp pain in my lower back. I felt bloated and it was almost impossible to stay sited, laying back or standing was and is the comfort zone. The strange thing is this horrible groin pain when i sit, I had a ct and mri and emg test, they are not sure what is causing it. The ct revealed possible FAI but the mri revealed the l5 hernia that is huge , although the neuro and ortho cant relate that to the groin pain.....i called it the underwear of pain!!! The ortho is not sure but he wanted me to try a epidural not sure is that a solution,,,,,,thinking in just let it be and deal with it!!!!! Im frustrated!

Thoughts?

Piero

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Hi, I had a huge herniation at L 4-5 and had alot of groin pain. As for the injections, I had 2 and it did nothing, along with months of physical therapy. I did end up having surgery as that was my last resort and what was recommended by 2 neuros.

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I'm sorry I don't have any answers for you, but I have a friend who has a 16 yr old boy that has major groin pain and has been to see everyone around. Since I have the back problems, I'm the one on here reading every day and I think you two may have solved the mystery of what is wrong with him. I called her this morning and asked her if anyone has taken a look at his back...makes sense to me because of all the research I have done with my problems...she was in shock that quite possibly this could be his problem. His father had him out doing alot of physical work this weekend...mowing, etc...and the poor kid is now home from school today because of the pain. She's gonna call their pcp and get him in to be seen, and she is gonna ask about an MRI. They have looked every where on this kid but NOT his back. I hope and pray that this will be the answer they have been seeking for soo long. THANK YOU BOTH for posting about the groin pain...you may have just helped out an active 16 yr old! You all know how drs work...fix the pain, but not solve the root cause. You two may have just helped that poor woman with her feelings of helplessness and dispair.

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I am glad we could be of some help. Atleast that's one more thing that can be checked into. Also, boys seem to be more prone to hernias in that area. Please make sure he checks himself for any swelling at all both sides. It is normal for his age to notice it and not mention it. Good luck

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Thank you Kasey, but they have already checked and re-checked for hernias. They don't know why he's in pain. Pain Mgmt wants to cauterize a nerve going to his groin....yet again, my pain mgmt center treating the symptom but not the cause. I'm soo proud.. NOT. I haven't heard about what the dr said yesterday, but I hope she'll keep me informed....especially after the MRI.
My Thanks still goes out to you!

Wendi

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I just changed doctors, I have large severe L5 hernia and spinal stenosis. He wants mw on therapy asap. On Wed im seeing the hip specialist for the groin pain, they are all in the same group. The Spine expert a young guy said that he treats patients not mri's and I liked that.

Waiting on hip Dr Wednesday to determine the course of action, I have the feeling that surgery is on the works. And I am scared!!!!!!! but is getting to the point that I cant barely walk and pain is always present.

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Piero,

I'm happy you changed doctors and soo glad you got one to treat YOU and not a just series of films stuck together. I hope you find some relief with therapy, who knows you may find some relief with an epidural. You may even find relief with a great chiro. but the source could always be there. Don't let them bully you into something you are unsure of, surgery is such a big step and many have regretted it, while others have benefited from it. I know when you are in pain things aren't in perspective and we jump too quickly to any promise of pain relief. We worry about our own around here so please keep us informed of your progress!

Wendi

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Having hip labrum and cam repair atroscophy surgery on the 22nd. I have a big cam and my right hip labrum is teared. Cant wait for that to be over!

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Good luck PMracc on your surgery! I hope all goes well for you. I understand you being scared, I was terrified, but could no longer take living around my pain and disability after 6 months. My surgery helped me immensely.

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I have had a similar condition for about 20 years now. It took them a long time to properly diagnose because the MRI did not show it well. I have had rounds of epidurals and most recently they worked fairly well, taking me from about an 8 to a 2 on the pain scale. I had to have a series of 3 injections before I got a good effect. My complaint is that the relief lasted only about 3 months, BUT that was much better than no relief. I am now looking into cauterization as a longer term solution. I is truly a drag to not be able to sit down and I hope your healing cure comes soon!

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Oops, forgot to clarify that my problem is spinal stenosis at the L5-S1 and affects right groin, left hip and left outer side of foot. For some reason it seems doctors forget that the nerves from L5-S1 and L4-L5 go to the groin area too. I wasted lots of time with physical therapy and one pt that was incredibly invasive and only gave relief for a day or two. I had surgery with little change. So far the epidurals under fluroscopy have been the best solution. Hope it all works out for you!

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I too have had similar back problems,, ( similar but not exactly the same) and a recurring groin pain, over the course of the last 5 years, which have responded to deep tissue massage, dry needle technique, pilates, feldenkris, physio, osteo, etc etc, I say responded, because some did better than others,. But the only things which got rid of the groin pain were Alexander Technique and Bowen Therapy. Bowen has literally removed the groin pain first time in 4 or five years. I don't know why it and alexander work, but they do.

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Hi all I am using this thread for my problem I have a prolapsed disk at l4/l5 and l5/s1 i have pain in my legs and buttock and lower back now i am having pain in the groin area I am 60 yrs with prostrate problem is it to do with prostrate or sciatica has got do do with it the prostrate problem is 6 yrs old but sciatic pain is 4 months With pain killers the back pain and leg pain is redused but the groin pain it is more like sensation
any advise comment
regds
PERVAIZ

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Hi - I am 67 years old - have recently been fighting neuropathy in my toes from Diabetes (which is now under control) While trying to deal with the pain /comfortableness in my feet I became aware that my right testicule started to feel uncomfortable and both upper thighs felt strange- Was told it was probably the neuropathy- - The testicules have become very annoying and uncomfortable - Thinking this might be a pinched nerve- I had a MRI completed and found the following:
At L5-S1: There is shallow left sub articular disc protrusion with annular fissure. approaches but does not compress the S1 nerve root. There is mild left neuroforami stenosis. So after reading your thread it seems there is a very good chance my groin and thigh pain - uncomfort is because of the L5 stenosis. I'm not sure where to go with this but at least I know the cause. Any advise toward treatment would be welcomed :)

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Hey there, we are very close in age and I had a similar injury years ago while delivering mail. My experience with epidurals is that they caused severe headaches, turned the anxiety up to eleven and brought on sudden massive hair loss, which eventually grew back.
I spent years going through therapy and seeing all sorts of specialist and the magic fix turned out to be moderation in my activities along with steady pain meds with a cane close by incase i pushed my luck. All completely normal now. Be patient with your doctors and try to keep a journal of how different activities affect your body. In my case the limitations in movement have steadily increased with time through no fault in my care but rather the nature of these changes to our body.
Be wary of those times when you have a brief window of relative normality and protect your back by not doing things that a person with spinal stenosis or a bunch of shot disks has no business doing. You have to plan for a life that is as pain free as possible and work with your body to achieve it. Mild workouts like yoga and tai chi have been real life savers in helping me avoid different kinds of atrophy.
Riding a bicycle is fortunately one of the activities I can still do with moderation, but you might want to ditch the road bike seat and switch to a bigger saddle.

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I have spinal stenosis in L4 & L5, but no groin pain. My brother in law has stenosis in L3, L4, & L5. His biggest complaint is the pain in his groin area, specifically in the testicles. He states if feels like there in a vice and someone is tightening the vice as hard as they can. They have been working on him to relieve this pain, but so far nothing has worked.

I will update you on his condition as it happens.

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