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Spondylolisthesis- some advice please

Started by qwerty on 04/05/2010 5:23pm

I have 50% slippage according to my consultant. I am in constant pain and unable to stand for more then a few mintues. My right toe always seem to be numb. However, on a good day I am able to walk for a mile without too much pain.Although I have oxycodine prescribed I only take this as a last resort for fear of getting too used to it.
I have been advised by my consultant to go for fusion. Although the quality of my life is not brilliant, I manage.
I am fearful that if I have the operation I may be in a worst situation but I am also feel that if I do not have the op I might devalope some problems which may not be reversable. Any advise, suggestions , experience etc will be really apprecaited in order for mre to amke a decision.

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I would recommend waiting for spine surgery for as long as possible!!!! Ur symptoms are manageable and I would just leave well enough alone for the time being. Once u have surgery, ur back will never be the same. Think carefully before u do anything concrete and get several opinions. Keep me posted on ur decision, take care. *hugs*

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hi
Thank you so much for your advise. You have more or less confirmed what I felr I should do. However, on a bad day I feel what can be worse then the unbearable pain I experience.
My greast fera is that if I do not have the op , will end with a symptom that I could have avoided .

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Hi, I had that condition and it got to the point where the slightest movement in the wrong direction set me off on a flare for several days with horrible spasms, inability to walk more than a few feet, and incontinence. I finally had to have fusion, but yes my back has never been the same, but I am better. Its great that you do well in between your episodes and I would avoid the surgery as long as you can. If you do need fusion, you'll be in good shape from your walking. And, as always, some of us do quite well and some don't. You just never know. Best wishes to you.

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Like mari stated there are success stories out there of ppl who do well. With mari, it began to affevt this person's ability to pee. That is a more serious symptom u want treated right away. I would try everything under the sun first before even beginning to contemplate surgery. U have a grade 2 spondylolisthesis. Have u tried chiropractors, physical therapy, acupuncture, massage, etc? I hope ur symptoms remain for the most part "manageable"!!! :)

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Hi qwerty,
You have the same slippage as me. Mine was confirmed with a MRI. My Specialist has told me the slippage has to be around 75% before surgery is warranted.
What worried me about your Post was your numb big toe. Mine was like that for a couple of years and then one day I was walking at the Shopping Centre when my ankle felt strange and then slowly over the next few hours my foot had dropped! I was rushed to Hospital and had a discectomy and a laminectomy. What had happened a disc had slipped & squashed the nerve that runs down your leg - the peroneal nerve I think. Unfortunately even though I had that surgery to take the pressure of the nerve it was unsuccessful. Later I had a tendon transfer and that too failed so I now have a paralysed foot and ankle for life with muscle wasting away in that leg. Now because my gait is off I find it hard to walk and now have more back pain. I have tried to explain what happened in layman's language but I beg you to ask your Dr. if the numbness in your big toe could be caused by a nerve being pressed on in your spine and have it released before you end up like me.

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Good morning,
I will be 40 in June and a mother of 3 sons. I had an anterior/posterior spinal fusion L5-S1 with 2 cages, 6 screws, 2 rods and bone graph from my hip to be inserted inside of the cages, I had Spondylolisthesis Grade 5...total slippage off of the track of spine holding only by nerves. Maybe cracked vertabra at birth and gradually just kept slipping..you could actually feel it sticking out of my lower back...anyways I thought I had just pulled a muscle or something..got an X-Ray..and that just sent me into a tumbling affect of doctors then finally a neurosurgeon and orthopedic surgeon went through my front and back to stablize my spine, couldn't put vertabra back where it should be or would paralize me. I was told if I didn't have the surgery within 6 months, bladder and bowel problems and I would eventually be paralized from the waist down. Needless to say I without a doubt had the surgery!!!!!! I was doing great a year later...even off all pain pills enough where I decided to have another child. This however took a further toll on my body and I have lower back pain every day and take vicodin 3 to 4 times a day depending on my activity level. But I consider my surgery 100% successful! I am not in a wheelchair and I am not wearing a diaper!
Please don't let your back get into worse condition! I feel if it is already 50% slippage...what will make it stop slipping even more over time??>> I wish I would have had more symtpoms earlier in life...and would have found my problem at a 50% slippage instead of my 100% slippage!! You have a chance of getting if fixed before reversable damage happens!! They could only stablize my spine not fix it....I have tingling and numbness in my right leg and foot when I sit in a chair(yes it is tingling already just typing this to you) I am actually happy to live with wth back pain, because with what I went through and with knowing what I was close to becoming...I feel blessed with my doctors they are my HEROS!!. A second opinion would be a good idea if you are feeling confused, scared or not sure on what to do. Do your research!!! Look for a neurosurgeon and orthopedic with the experience in Spinal Fusions...Going through the front and back in the fusion is also a way to make sure the slippage doesn't move either way with holding it on both sides. My case was very extreme and uncommon for my young age and for me to not have any problems until my 30s! and I was very lucky not to have any bladder or bowel problems! I have been taking Vicodin since 2002 ...please don't be worried about getting hooked on your pills...us with actual pain aren't likely to get ourselves addicted to them...people ask me all the time "Aren'ty you worried about your liver? Are you addicted? The answer is no. My doctor told my I would have to take 8 or more a day for my liver not to be able to process it!! I use to be scared to take the pain pills also...my doctor told me not to wait till I am in awful pain..to take my pills every 4 to 5 hours that way it will be more affective and it will work better that way! Nothing is worse then all day that up and down feeling of no pain...then pain..then taking another pill to wait for the pain to go away!Take your meds when prescribed..not when your already in bad pain. Don't feel bad about it!! I know I use to also!! I do however never leave my medication out or let alot of people know what I am taking. I actually keep it locked up here at home. It is scary the people that will try to get your pills or come out and ask for one or two or if they can buy some from you. I use to keep a few in a little keychain bottle..until I would notice I would be away from desk or somewhere and my set of keyswould be laying out and my bottle would end of being empty. If you ever want to email me or pick my brain about something...email me at pennie92@aol.com ..my name is Dena or some call me Pennie. I remember how scary it was before I had my surgery and the internet Chatrooms and messageboards about spinal fusions was the best help I got!!!!! People that had been there before........

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