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Chiro Bio Physics ... thoughts and advice needed!

Started by GJ on 05/26/2010 8:16am

Hello Everyone,

A slightly long first post, but I really would love (need!) some advice/thoughts/guidance so hear goes ...

I started seeing a chiropractor for the first time in February this year after two events, my back went into spasm after a 3 hour ski lesson, and the following weekend, I had a car crash which compounded my back spasms and added whiplash to the problems. I went to a chiropractor (who practices CPB - Chiro Bio Physics - until recently I thought all chiropractors are the same) who after four x-rays (2 neck and 2 lower back) said my right leg is structurally 18mm short (about 9mm leg and 9mm malformed hip), and my neck is 13 degrees excessively forward leaning (incorrect curvature). I was recommended up to 9 months of chiro-treatments 3 times per week (very expensive!) which I have followed since February, so I’m three months in.

The back inflammation has subsided, and I'm now continuously wearing an 18mm heel lift, which has been feeling too high; the past couple of weeks (it's been 3 weeks on 18mm), my right leg has been feeling longer than my left and my right knee and left hip have been uncomfortable, sometimes actually hurting. I had a second lower back x-ray last night at another practice (for my regular chiropractor who doesn’t have an x-ray machine) and the x-ray chiropractor said my right leg is now 10mm too long when I asked, which is consistent with how I have been feeling, but after seeing my chiropractor this morning, he is adamant that his original diagnosis is correct and my spine is now correct (it was only 1 degree out previously).

Further to this, my chiropractor has started making me do neck drops and tractions that involve sitting on a chair and dropping my neck back whilst adding weights (up to 4kg) for 20 minutes after each 5 minute session of cracking my neck, using a drop-table to drop my shoulders, and a pulse-gun (like a mini-hammer) to stress my muscles/bones; I have found this very challenging, and after each treatment, I have had to remain seated whilst blood re-circulated around my head and down my shoulders/arms. I queried this with my chiropractor, who re-assured me this was normal. It has triggered frequent headaches, what I thought were tension related from the group of muscles in my neck and shoulders, but last week I could not manage 10 minutes of traction and when I got home, my girlfriend noticed a pinch-bruise at the top of my neck and my head hasn't felt right much since then. I informed my chiropractor about this today and he seemed a little nervous that I started challenging his opinions.

I really don't know where to turn now, I have a chiropractor who is very passionate about CPB and determined that his diagnosis and treatment advice is correct, but physically I don't feel it is correct, and now I doubt his rationale. Unfortunately, my Doctor (General Practitioner on the UK NHS - National Health Service) is not useful as the NHS service doesn't recognise back or neck problems and only prescribes pain management ... which incidentally my chiropractor has asked me not to take.

I now don’t know where to turn as I have invested a lot of time and money in my current chiropractor but I can’t help but feel his faith in CPB is blinding him from a rational or calmer treatment methodology. Everyone, including a person on the General Chiropractor Council in the UK has said my chiropractor’s methods are ‘not normal’. I don’t know where to turn or who to trust.

Please help.

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Oh my word. I have never heard of his methods of neck drops and traction. WOW. I'm used to a chiro who uses a big machine that pulls on you for traction. Sounds like your Chiro is stuck in the dark ages hon! It sounds like he's making things much worse on you than good. Are there any other chiro's in your area that you could go to just for a consult? I understand the throwing the money away with switching drs, but damn, sounds like this guy is into pure mid-evil torture. If that's what they are calling Chiro Bio Physics, I don't wanna get close to it. Here in the US we have machines that are called DRX's there are many different series of them, but they are all pretty much the same with different bells and whistles. It's a gentle machine that yes does hurt a little but does good in the end, won't pull on you the wrong way and if you get out of alignment, Chiro re-adjusts you as needed. The only complication I had is that my pelvis dropped on one side, but that was an easy fix....manipulation by the chiro, and then next session was with the DRX. They also add cold laser and ultrasound and an ice packed back brace to the mix.
WOW....I'm still having a hard time getting those images out of my head....I'd have run for it once he started the neck drops...My neck likes to be on my shoulders.
In my opinion, go out and look for another chiro, don't worry about the bio physics part...that sounds like a load to me. They are all about bio physics when it comes to the spine. Call someone up from a health board and see if what this guy is doing is traditional or just plain sick. There's gotta be someone in certification that can tell you what the normal practices are.

This is just my opinion....

Wendi

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GJ,

Do me a favor please....Go read in the "Ask the experts" section of this site and look for past discussions about how to choose a chiropractor. Post a question somewhere in the ask the experts and get some attention from one of the doctors on board in this site. I just have a bad feeling about what you have been going through. It can't hurt to ask one of the experts.

Wendi

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Thanks, will do. I've got copies of my x-rays and have started apporaching other chiropractors. Hopefully this will get me some answers.

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Thank you GJ! I was a getting a little worried about how you were doing. Keep me informed please, I'm curious to hear what the new chiro says.

Wendi

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I was in an extensive full spine rejuvenation program for 15 months. It is called The Pettibon System and was NOTHING like that. Wow!!!! I only attend chiros who practice this method along with decompression therapy. Do your research and attend many seminars to find the right chiro for you!!

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CBP is one of the ways to get your spine and other joints to work properly. You just have to remember that chiropractic is a science, philosophy, and ART. So, there are people who are good and people who are better. Understand soft tissue healing, understand neuroplasticity and you'll understand why to avoid quick fix, pain focused care. I hope you find yourself a good chiropractor (CBP included?).

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GJ,
I have been a practicing CBP doctor for close to 20 years. As long as your doctor is following CBP protocol, you should be fine, and do quite well. For those that are unfamiliar with CBP, CBP is the most peer-reviewed chiropractic technique with the most published papers in orthopedic, medical, and chiropractic journals. It is considered an evidence-based technique, which means studied before applied. The most effective way to determine leg length discrepancy is to take a Ferguson's Sacral Base x-ray. That is one taken at the same angle as the sloped sacrum. This is more accurate then a straight on x-ray. The drop you are describing is a recognized chiropractic adjustment utilizing a table with a special drop piece that may drop a ½ inch or so. If done correctly it should not be uncomfortable. This is a specific adjustment to stimulate joint receptors to accept a new postural position. The Impulse adjusting tool (hammer) applies a similar affect while specifically improving joint motion. The traction that you are referring to is the primary method to CBP’s spinal restorative approach. By using the science of Rheology (the relation between force and deformation) and ligamenous creep, over time the spine can take on a new and better posture. This does take time and may not always be comfortable. However, correcting or reducing an underlying spinal mechanical problem can have tremendous outcomes.
Regarding your level of discomfort, you should have a sit down talk with your doctor. Relay to him that he may be going too fast or to intense. Your doctor should be able to modify your treatment for better compliance. Your doctor should also reveal the follow-up x-rays to you so that you can see the progression. Ask if he can prescribe home therapy that can help you with your in-office visits. Often home stretches with exercises can help. Also go towww.Idealspine.com to familiarize yourself with the technique, this may put you more at ease.

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Hi i am new in this forum and i want to tell story for my pain .I had been suffering for two years then i contacted Chiropractor Suwanee GA
they provided good treatment for me and from that days i believe to chiropractic techniques.

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