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Increased Pain After lumbar epidural steroid injection

From: 100000422267181... - on 05/25/2011 3:26pm

Hello All,

I am new to this community. A little background - I am 48 and suffer from extreme lower back pain. I just had my second lumbar epidural steroid injection (2 weeks ago) in the L5\S1 region, my pain has increased 100% with wicked headaches. I have seen my pain specialist again where he ordered an MRI to ensure there was no infection - there was none. they said i must have injured my back somehow after the injection... the pain specialist gave me some Lyrica to try and control the pain - percocets did nothing for the pain.

I don't know what to do... is a pain increase after these type of injections common? before the injections the pain was there but tolerable but now it is really bad - in the ER demerol was just taking the edge off. these injections were going to make the pain better... not worse!!

Has anyone else had an increase in pain after these injections?

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on 05/25/2011 6:04pm

I just got done posting something and noticed your post. I actually did have an epidural injection in the lumbar region (the doctor did not tell me where). I had to ask him what medication he was injecting and it was Kenalog. Now mind you.. I had 3 kids with no epidurals and totally natural because I feared people touching or messing with my spine. The pain made me succumb to accepting the epidural for any type of relief. Well... the epidural itself was a breeze... afterwards was horrible for days!! Then it finally wore off and the pain that the epidural was supposed to fix, returned for more torture. It didn't help me. Now, some people it may help. I'm just a nurse and not a doctor, but what you are telling us about having a massive headache after the injection makes me wonder. There are two types of spinal injections... epidural injections (which is within the actual epidural space itself) and a spinal injection.. goes into the spine. With those type of injections, they can cause horrible headaches itself. I used to assist anethesiologist with epidural injections for labor patients and I remember him telling me that he feels for "pops"... one "pop" your in the epidural space and the second "pop" it's spinal.. maybe he went too far but then again maybe you did have an epidural with an adverse reaction. I don't know...I would question meningitis but that sounds like it has been ruled out. I'd definately let my doctor know.

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on 06/03/2011 3:22pm

The wicked headache after your procedure could be a spinal headache which means your injection did not go into the appropriate space. My sister had the headaches after a diagnostic spinal tap. She ended up having to return to doc due to needing a spinal patch because her spinal fluid was leaking. The membrane is supposed to self seal but her's did not. She did not get any relief from the headaches until she had the second procedure.
I have had more lumbar epidurals than I can count. I too would have increased pain after. I was told that the extra fluid that was injected caused the increased pain and pressure because the area was already inflamed. I would end up on the couch for a few days after each injection but still did not receive any relief. I gave up on the injections because of not receiving any relief and the crazy costs.

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on 06/13/2011 6:49pm

From L1-L5 I have either bulging or ruptured or pieces breaking off. I get injections in my lumbar region with steroids and I go home and lay flat for awhile and then can go about my business. My injections last for roughly 3 months, then I have to return for more injections. I do not get headaches like you all, I do not suffer like you all. I wear 25mg Duragesic Patches and change them every 3 days, all this works for me. My doctor has a front store turned into a small sterile room with asst. and nurse and the person who puts you to sleep, these people are just the nicest people and understand my pain, when I hurt and they see me they feel bad for me. Really, I cannot believe it either but it is the truth. If the pain comes back before the 3 months I go back and without any problems they take me in and fix it. I love them all. I really feel sorry for all of you who are not getting the attention and caring of these people. I don't know what else to say. I really feel go.. but if I forget to change my patches, the pain causes my to walk doubled over, it is that painful, so I try not to forget. I do feel your pain. My doctor is in twice a week and takes as many as he can. This is in Staten Island, New York on Hylan Blvd. Talk to me.

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on 06/14/2011 10:51am

I had a transforaminal epidural injection about 8 months ago. I have not experienced any pain for what the treatment was for. I have an L3/4 herniation causing severe stenosis. The doctor I have is great and the injection has worked fine. Unfortunately I also have some problems on the SI joint and pain around my lower back and hip. At one time I thought I was going to need a hip replacement. They did facet injections. I got about 6 months with those. On the second set of injections the duration was not as great. As a matter of fact pain is still there we are going to try a different approach this time. I am going to try a Lumbar Radiofrequency Nerurotomy. I wonder if anyone else has had this procedure? I am a bit apprehensive about it since it involves cauterizing the facet nerve endings. We'll see how it goes. If successful I am told I will have anywhere between 1 1/2 to 2 years of relief.

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on 06/14/2011 12:42pm

Hi hon,

So sorry to hear about your result. I can relate. I've had about 6 of the epidural floroscopies and all of them gave me alot of relief. That was - however - until the one I had about 2 weeks ago. I've never had a bad reaction before, but this time I was sooo incredibly sore, stiff, and in so much pain I could barely walk.I didn't have the headaches, but my back pain actually ended up worse than it was before I had this one done. It's so strange that all the other ones I've had over the years have really done well for me, but this time was awful!

I suppose not only do the results vary from patient to patient, but can even vary from epi to epi with the same patient.

However, I thought I had read somewhere that if you get the really bad headache, that they might have punctured the dura layer or something. I did find this link for you, which has risks and complications of epi's so maybe you can find something there that might help.

http://www.spine-health.com/treatment/injections/epidural-steroid-injections-risks-and-side-effects

My doc suggested repeating the injection. But, the neurosurgeon wants an MRI first. So that's my short term plan. Just try to manage the pain as best as I can (pain meds, muscle relaxers, and neurontin), as well as ice and heat.

An MRI might be warranted, because you may have had some complication from your epi procedure or perhaps your back has just reached the tipping point, ya know?

Good luck and keep us posted!

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on 06/15/2011 11:48am

I have had numerous lower back shots and while not as severe a headache reaction as you I did have increased pain on one instance and had my doctor give me oral steroids to reduce the inflammation and pain. It worked like a charm. I then had the radio frequency zapping and that is WONDERFUL!!!!! So to the gentleman who is concerned don't be! I had no problem what so ever afterwards. Much better than the shots. My l4,l5 S1 with pain and numbness down my left leg is practically CURED! I do have issues with my sacrum going out and that is still painful and I don't know if they can do the same with that or not. If they can I will feel half my age. It goes so far out of whack my right leg gets about 3/4 to over an inch shorter than my left leg from being pulled over. I don't understand it totally but luckily I do have a massage therapist who can put it back "in" and I wear a tens unit which scrambles the nerves signals when no pain meds can help. Typically expect increased pain 24 - 48 hours after an injection unless you really can ice, ice ice and rest right afterwards. But backs are a piece of cake compared to ELBOWS! I get 6-8 months relief for my arm from a shot but only about a month on my back making them hardly worth it. Radio frequency zapping is the way to go for long term relief but make sure you have somebody who does it all the time. I go to the Shands Sports Orthopedic Clinic in Gainesville who are excellent.

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on 06/15/2011 4:02pm

I've done the full gammot of services. The radio frequency nerve lesion lasted 6 months the first time they killed it and until I could hardly walk the second time. I've done them at L5-S1, C5-6 and C4-5. I have problems at both ends and have had a fusion at C45 and C56 and cervical disc replacement at C34 and C67. I still have torn discs around that, which I had prior to the surgeries. Now I'm having horrible headaches and arm and hand pain from the other levels. The facet lesions have helped that. I just need to get in and do the other levels.

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on 06/17/2011 8:53pm

three weeks ago i had a shot in my lower back,in the past three year i cant tell u how many ive had, but this time something went horribly wrong. the pain has become so severe that i cannot get any reliefe at all. since the shot if i bend down for any reason im stuck till i get help from my family, or if someting stronge like my bed post is in front i might be able to pull very hard to get up. the doctor than done this dont believe me.i just got a mri that my wounderful family doctor ordered and im hoping that he did not make my disk blow out...the first thing i have started doing when i wake up is move my legs to see if they still will work, im scared to death that im going to wake up and be stuck there..the other shots never did this.what could he of done to me/

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on 06/18/2011 9:09am

To the woman who posted last -Did they have you sign a waiver before giving you the shot? They do that because there is a chance that they miss and hit something that makes you worse. I have always had to sign a waiver that I would not hold the doctor responsible should I become paralyzed if things go wrong --I could also get hit by a bus going home so I sign. My local doc clearly said "damn, I missed OK I got it this time!!" while giving me an injection in my lower back ---it was the last time he will ever give me a shot. I was black and blue all over one side from all his tries. He is mad that I have gone up to a Sports clinic at a hospital that specializes in these procedures and does them ALL the time and I knew immediately were MUCH more professional but I'm not taking any more chances. As it was I had terrible headaches after that incident. Things can and do go wrong. You should get checked out by another doctor. SECOND OPINIONS ARE NOT A BAD THING BUT A MUST DO ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR SPINE!!! I almost had back surgery until I saw another surgeon who said it would NOT fix what was causing the bulk of my pain. The Sports Clinic and the radio frequency nerve "zapping" did without invasive surgery. It won't last forever but it didn't make me worse as the surgery might have. CHECK OUT YOUR DOCTOR'S RECORD AND HOW OFTEN HE DOES THESE INJECTIONS! GET A SECOND OPINION! Advocate for yourself and remember doctors put their pants on one leg at a time just like everybody else. It is your health and pain that they should be putting number one. They took an oath to do NO HARM and if they have they should help you. You will never get another doctor to say he did damage to you and unless you can prove he was drunk or for some other reason should not have been working that day you can not sue him. It happens and that's why you sign waivers.

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on 06/24/2011 2:10pm

to the last response to my response im seeing a nurosurgen monday i pray that everything goes ok ive got a 7 yr old and a 8 yr old and vright now they r taking care of me..thats messed up

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on 06/25/2011 6:52pm

Brent, I was in the same boat with a herniation at the L5-S1 area. [one of several..I have 5 bad discs]

The pain and numbness was more than I could handle and I was referred to a pain specialist who recommended the lumbar epidurals. I did not have mine done in the hospital, but in the doctor's office. I remember the tremendous pain when they performed the injection. It felt like someone slammed my entire left leg in a vice.

They say you have to lie perfectly still so they can guide the needle into your back, using an x-ray machine to find the way. However, when the meds went in after the Novocaine, it was not pleasant. My leg shot straight up & out like I was electrocuted. When I said it hurt, the doc asked where the pain was [like it was a normal reaction] and said that's good.
What?

Well that pain only lasted for about 20 seconds and the nurse to my right did a good job of keeping me distracted [cute]. Before long, they were done and I was in the "recovery" area having juice. Within 30 minutes I was walking out of there with NO PAIN or numbness.

The benefits from the first shot only lasted 2 weeks. The second and third set of injections lasted about 90 days. In November, I was ready to have surgery. My EMG and nerve conduction tests proved that the nerves were "sleeping" before I was. After another MRI, the neurosurgeon said I was a candidate for surgery but I was not able to get the endoscopic type surgery that is less invasive. I would have an incision about 6-8" long. Along with removing the herniation, they would have to increase the size of the hole where the nerve roots were going through.

I also was on Lyrica and during my vacation the swelling went down enough that I was able to skip surgery. I still have pain and stiffness and limited capabilities for general labor, but otherwise I can still work. Those injections worked great for me.

BTW, I'm 53 and have DDD with Lumbar Spondylosis and radiculopathy. I have been fighting this back issue[s] since 1991. Traction worked great also. The doc said if I have the surgery done, I would most likely have to repeat the surgery in about 2 years, so he is recommending that I put off any surgery until the last moment.

I can only assume that they went a little too far when doing your injection and that's why you did not benefit from the shot. And probably the reason for the pain afterward. Sounds like he punctured the spinal cord with the needle. [It would only take one bad injection for me to change doctors]. Talk to another pain specialist. A second opinion might help. As for the epidurals, each person that I know who's had it, has benefited from the injection.

Good luck. I hope you can resolve your back pain soon.

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on 06/27/2011 12:41pm

I am on my second round of epidural steroid injections after a car accident. I am being treated for nerve root inflamation. I have severe pain in my hips and lower back. The 1st round got me up and moving and the second round hurt twice as bad and have had more issues after. I still have pain in my hips and tailbone area. Not sure this is working and not sure if they actually know what is wrong. I had slight headache after both injections, but nothing to bad. I was just given Celebrex and it seems to be helping. I was unable to function prior to the Celebrex. I am now feeling much better, but again still have pain in hips and backside. Can not sit for long peroids of time. I am 43 and very active. This has been a nightmare.. I hope you get relief as I did from the ESI treatment. Good luck.

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on 07/01/2011 11:58am

I went through the same thing after both of my lumbar epidural injections and the second one put me in the OR a week after the injection for a spinal fusion! My ortho spine surgeon said it was because the nerves were extremely damaged that the steroid had aggravated them. As far as the headaches go, I would watch out for a CSF leak, if the headaches only happen when you are doing anything but laying down and are excruiating then I would go straight to the ER. I had 4 of those, the first, second and third were 3-4 weeks after post-op for the fusion and it landed me on complete bed rest for almost 4 weeks with many procedures one with a spinal fluid drain and another surgery with a lot of pain and a few residual headaches. Hope everything gets better!

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on 07/11/2011 9:54pm

I've been doing the steriodal injections for about 6 years now. Last Thursday I finally had my radio frequency nerve lesion but only on the right side going from L-4 thru S-3. I am sooo excited about doing the left side because the only pain I have on the right side now is sciatic pain, and that's what the morphine does kind of help with. I don't ever expect to be 100 percent again in my life, but atleast now I have less painful days and nights. I'm almost in shock because it's been soo long since I've been down to a 4 on the pain scale. This new pain doctor also sent me for a bone density test because he actually took time to notice that a few of my vertibrae were spongy. And he actually read thru my chart seeing that I've gone from 5'2" down to 5'0" in only three years. I used to hate going to pain mgmt because we can't keep doctors around here and it would just be another jerk poking around in my back instead of reading my chart. We just got this one a month ago and he decided to not do anymore "mapping" in my back and just to go thru with the nerve burns and map out most while I was on the table. I only had one painful burn during the whole procedure and then I was knocked out completely to keep me comfortable. I'm just in shock because it's taken 7 years to get somewhere, and I hope and pray that this one will stick around for the next couple of years. The only thing I'm wondering is: Am I gonna have to go thru radio frequency nerve lesions every so often, or is this it? I know that nerves grow back, but how fast do they typically take as far as back nerves go? I can handle doing this every year, but sure don't wanna have to face the pain again....I'd like to be able to cut down on the doseage of morphine, like get down to 15mg 2xday instead of 30mg 2xday.

Thanks for your answers in advance!

Take care,

Wendi

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on 07/18/2011 12:37pm

I can't tell you how many steroid injections I have had. None of them did the job of reducing the constant pain. I have had 3 major back operations. The last one worked the best but alas after 6-8 months the pain came back and it was more intense. I had a pain pump installed inn Aug of 2010. It has had to be modified as far as the dosage goes on four different ocasions. I have had to depend on oral meds since the last injection which was done 3 weeks ago, The onlt position that I have any comfort at all is laying on my back with a heating pad. I have an appointment next week to go in and have the meds changed for my pump. I am praying that this will work as I am taking mt wife to Italy and Greece for our 25th anniversary. I hope to be able to do lots of walking which is impossible now. Good luck with anyone who has injections but everybody needs a MRI to make sure that the injections will help. I have gone to many "pain" Dr's who say they will and I feel that money is the only factor in doing these for most of the so called pain Dr's. Make careful choices before having them. Always get 2-3 opinions before having them. Good luck to anyone who has them done.

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on 07/30/2011 1:25am

I to recently had the Lumbar Epidural injection and during the injection I experienced the most horrific pain. I just thought that they did succeed in getting the medicine in the needed area. I opted for no anestia becuase I thought it would be a simple Epidural like the one I had when having my daughter but this was nothing like that feeling. It's been a few days now and my pain has increased. This is my first one in my spine and dont think that I will have it done again if this pain continues without any relief.

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on 09/06/2011 8:09pm

I had my first steroid injection a week ago and the first day I felt great. For herniated disk. Then the pain returned with a vengeance. Their discharge sheet mentioned this. The Pain Mgmt. folks said that it might take 2 full weeks for the pain to let up. I was hoping that I would get some relief before now. Have had the horrible sicatic pain in the front of my leg for 3 weeks now. Is this normal - 2 weeks to see if it works? I don't know how much more I can stand!! Sciatica is the most horrible pain I have ever had, but I don't think doctors have any idea. Have done the oral steroids, strong pain meds, ice, heat, but nothing really helps.

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on 11/27/2011 7:12am

Better get to another Doc buddy. I had 2 local lumbar and they only stirred things up for a day or 2 (made it worse) and just had 8 facet injections directly but guided by x-ray/flouroscope and they helped immediately after one day The 2 epidurals wore off so quick never went and got a third. I ain't no Doc but I belive headaches can be a symptom of your spinal cord actually being pieced. MRI DO NOT SHOW EVERYTHING. My buddy broke a vertebrae into didn't show on there. I've had L5-S1 fused and it came out in 3 pieces, worse the internal doc had ever seen a man walk around bone to bone at my age 50yrs old after2 surgeons and 3 MRI didn't show or they didn't see it being that bad. Also had T11-T12 XLIF from blown T11 disc and 4 compression fractures that I did in my 20s racing MX that I just sucked up and healed without pills but after wasting away for 2 1/2 yrs at 46 yrs old after my MRI readings where misread. Go to another Doc preferably a neurosurgeon who will listen to you, they practice medicine Buddy. I have been through 5 Docs and my physical therapist diagnosed my dailey ungoshly spasms that started again from bad facet joints. My neurosurgeon said he had no idea and I was so knotted up he could see my muscle binding up and I asked him about a Rhizotomy and he said they didn't exist, well they do and I am getting one as those 8 injections made me feel 20 again. Go to another Doc..!! That listens to you and do your research. I wasted almost 3 yrs of my life taking the 1st surgeons diagnosis and I can't them back.

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on 04/27/2012 12:06am

I was told I had fibromyalgia 7 years ago, I have the normal symptoms of fibro but have a lot of hip and left leg pain, numbness and tingling, left arm numbness, tingling,and both arm pain and electrical feeling throughout my body. I went to several drs and pain specialists. Recently I went to a new pain specialist and he wanted to do a MRI on my spine, we got the results back and he said he didn't think that most of my problems were from fibro that I had a lot of spine issues. My neck is straighter and curves the opposite way and L3-4, L4-5 bulge and Herniation at L5-S1, Grade1 Posterior Spondlisthesis at L5-S1. He told me I needed to have a neurosurgeon consult but I had to have at least 2 epidural injections because insurance would not approve the consult without them. That they would not help me at all. He told me he would numb me and I would not feel a thing maybe some pressure and that because I had increase inflammation and he added more fluid I would have increased pain in my leg and hip area but that would only last a day or two and it would be bad..

II went for the first injection and he numbed the area and I felt the needle go in and it was pressure then I felt a sharp pain I told him this, I then began to feel more pain. He continued the procedure, I continued to feel the sharp pain throughout the procedure, it brought tears to my eyes. Mind you I have a pretty high tolerance for pain. He said you shouldn't feel any pain just pressure, next time we will use conscious sedation. For the next 4 days I was in bed in severe back pain, I DID NOT even have back pain before the injections, I had hip and legs pain. I couldn't get out of bed. The pain continued for several days. I called the dr and he said it was just the inflammation.

I went for the 2nd one and they done the conscious sedation and once again even under sedation I felt the sharp pain and it brought tears to my eyes. He says I shouldn't feel sharp pain it should just be pressure. The same thing happened again severe back pain and in bed for several days. I am finally up this time I am experiencing back pain on and off with movement. I called him once again and I also am having increased leg pain and numbness. He is sending me for my neuro consult and a EMG on my left leg.

Has anyone else experienced this? I am worried he has caused damage. I didn't have any lower back pain prior to these epidural injections and now the pain is unbearable at times.

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on 04/29/2012 5:28pm

Hi Brent, sorry to hear about your pain.

I had an epidural roughly 6 months ago and I suffered much more pain after that. It stuck around for a month or so maybe more, it was agony and could hardly move for about a week. When it wore off I did not get any pain relief from it. I wouldn't call it a 'normal' reaction, but at least you know that other people have had it. Hope your pain doesn't last as long as mine.

Funny thing is that my specialist wants me to have another one now!! I'm like 'HELL NO!!'...Though he seems convinced that I won't react in the same way 2nd time round.... (any opinions on this?)

Hope your pain eases off soon though.

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on 06/18/2012 6:30am

Brent, I just had a "lumbar facet bilateral" injection last Tues., and actually for a few days I did not hurt that much. My pain is so severe, I cannot stand for any length of time without feeling pain in my back that is excruciating. I just started seeing this pain doctor, and I told him I wanted to be able to walk 2 miles without pain. He started with the injections. I have 3 ruptured disks, spinal stenosis, and one piece of a disk is setting on a nerve. I take neurontin for pain, but it helps more with my mood than anything else. The disks that are involved for me are from L4 to S1. I have shooting pain in the lower back all the time, and down both legs. I really miss the things I used to do. I am scheduled for my 4th go-round with physical therapy.

I have to agree with some other comments here, that having a severe headache after the injection tells me that you had a spinal injection, instead of the nerve injection. I am surprised they did not tell you to lay flat for a so many hours, or give you instruction about this.

I am having my usual pain today, but I am hoping that the steroids will kick in. I just wanted to have surgery to take the pieces off of the nerve, but so far, no one else is suggesting it but me. Does the Lyrica help at all? I took one of them one time and felt really weird for a while.

Please keep us posted as to how you are doing.

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on 06/18/2012 4:44pm

Brent I have had steroid injections in my spine with increased pain for the first few days but not with severe headaches. I have gotten oral steroid prescriptions to take to help with the increased inflammation which has helped. But you really need to find somebody who is exceptional at giving these injections and has a very clean and professional atmosphere where you get them. My pain management Dr. gives them but I stopped getting them from him after he almost broke a needle off in me because he switched to a different brand that turned out to be no good. Plus on another occasion he was trying to do a different procedure and kept saying OOPS, then Ahhh I got it!!!! Now I just go to him for my medication. I was driving 65 miles to a spine specialists for the more serious treatments but he relocated across the country and now I have to start from scratch. I won't let anybody touch me again until I know for sure that they come highly recommended. They are cracking down here in FL on Pain Clinics but they still haven't gotten all the quacks out of the business. Good Luck, I have been dealing with my lower back issues for over 25 years plus I've had 3 cervical disc surgeries. A Tens Unit can be very helpful in dealing with the pain, sometimes even better then a pill.

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on 06/20/2012 5:06pm

All I can say is I had a facet joint block about 8 months ago for degenrative disc and facet joint desease and it did not help the pain at all. tried trigger point injections for about 6 months that did help and got to the point where that nor the pain pills would help me any. So on June 13, 2012, the doctor recommended I have a transformial epidual block. So i gave in and tried it. first few days were rough and I was so down hearted but one week later I am feeling no pain. I dont want to brag too soon but hopefully I can be paid free for a while. I will have additional block when needed.

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on 09/22/2012 5:02pm

My pain doc, did the right side of my back (radio frequency) and it went fine. Then I came back 2 weeks later to have the left side done. It was not at all the same experience!
I went home and lived on ice for 1 week. I tried to get into the town pool for some weightless movement. Back on the ice for 5 more days.
Then, I woke up and I could NOT MOVE! I could not even get out of bed. My husband very slowly helped me to the edge of my bed and put my clothes on me. I COULD NOT GET DRESSED. I called his office and they said to call back in 2 more days. I did...he ignored me. I then called and his assistant told me to try a back brace. I came in to be fitted, but I had to use a wheel chair because I still COULD NOT WALK! He did not even come and take a look at me! I am so pissed off at his cold attitude. He acts like I am faking it. My husband has had to be with me day and night because I could not do anything.
Finally 20 days later, I could hobble with a cane and my husband on one side to the bathroom.

The doctor had me get an MRI and it showed FOUR BULGING DISCS ON THE LEFT SIDE! I did not have them in the prior MRI 6 months before. He then did an S-I joint shot on the LEFT SIDE. I swear he did not let the LIDOCAINE kick in....the shot was the WORST INJECTION I HAVE EVEN HAD! I was crying and shaking. They got me off the table and hustled me as fast as they could, out the door! I am so angry at him.
They said that the doctor wants to TALK TO ME the next visit. I know he is going to discharge me because things did not go well.....whatever. I thought he was the best doctor ever, but clearly I was wrong.

These people with their needles, using us to see what works and what does not. No empathy or even returning a call when you end up in the ER. This is barbaric.

I do not know what to do now. How do you know who to trust? Who is good? There is not book of reviews for CONNECTICUT.

I am still a mess and I have no treater at this time...I only have vials of narcotics and I really do not want to live out my life on narcotics. People that think all of us are junkies are sadly mistaken.
I would not want anyone to go through what I did. I do not care if he dismisses me.....he only likes you if all goes well, and if not, "off with your head", like ALICE IN WONDERLAND~

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on 09/24/2012 11:04pm

Hi Brent, I Tried the injections also,,on my 2nd, he punctured my spinal cord which caused me to have severe headaches...ended up in ER,,they did a cervical MRI to see if the spinal fluid I was leaking ( from injection) was collecting at my head which would cause the headaches , and to see if the puncture needed a blood patch or if it was small enough to heal on its own.fortunatly it didnt need the blood patch,,,,,,so if your still experiencing the headaches I would advise you to get another CT scan or MRI..and yes the injections increase the pain for only a few days n then your suppose to get releif, I never benifited from the injections.They all push for the injections,,,,why,,because their getting 2500.00 an injection,,its all about $, sad to say.and the pumps the get kick backs from the companies when they insert one,again $$$$$$$$$. Hang in there, be possitive, ( which is hard ),,,keep us informed, feel better,,Rene:) :) :)

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on 09/26/2012 7:47pm

IT'S LIKE I AM INVISIBLE HERE......OK, I GET IT NOW......GOOD BYE~

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on 09/28/2012 1:10am

I am 62 years who has had chronic back pain since 1999. I did have a lamectomy in 2007, I have had a spinal cord stimulator which ended up not helping me at all.

I also have an extremely back neck that impinges different nerves which affect the mobility of my arm, but that is better so I don''t even want to think about getting that mess again.

Today I had an lower lumbar epidural injection. I have had numerous injections like this over a period of years. NONE of them ever hurt. However, this one I had was just unbelievable.

During the injection the pain was horrible. As soon as this injection was over I began to have HORRIBLE back pains that went from both hips including all the lower back. I was in such pain, the RN gave me another pain injection and that didn't help at all so she tried Valium which put me to sleep for about 5 minutes or so. The pain was gone after I woke up. After going home, I tried and tried to remember where I had felt this pain before and it was when I had "labor pains" while giving birth to my daughter. ALL my labor pains where just like I had today. All in the back. Wow, what happened. I trust my pain management doctor because he is the one who has given me epidurals in the past and everything went smooth.

Could infection in the lower back have caused more pronounced pain? I have pain in my back most of the time. By the way, I am a TOUGH OLD BIRD but this pain had me crying, YES crying! I had two different knees replaced and never went to PT which the surgeon said he didn't understand why I did so well, particularly because my right knee had MRSA in it at one time. That was absolutely horrible. Any suggestions or comments would be greatly appreciated.

I have decided I would rather read other people's comments because they have been there so they don't what real pain is. I am scared to take the other epidural which is scheduled for next Wednesday.

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on 09/30/2012 11:06pm

How do you get some feedback from this site? I posted a day or two ago and I really need the feedback from you folks out there that know about back pain, etc. If I am posting the wrong way or not in the right place, someone let me know.

I have really appreciated the fact of seeing all the different posts that people in pain have made. Some have helped me a great deal in coming to a conclusion about what steps I should take in the future regarding back pain. However, I REALLY want to here if anyone ever had "unbearable pain" right after a lumbar epideral.....as I stated in my post earlier my pain was like pain that I exerienced when I was in labor 38 years ago.

Thank you

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on 10/01/2012 9:25am

NanaJo,

Do not feel singled out. I have posted (above as you can see) and I NEVER get a response from anyone. I just got your comment through email updates on this thread.

I had an S-I injection 2 weeks ago. It was THE MOST PAINFUL injection I have EVER HAD! I swear the doctor did not wait for the lidocaine to take effect, OR he did not even use any.

I was crying and shaking during the entire procedure. Then he just walked out of the room, like cold heartless bastard. They got me off the table and shuffled me out the door, CRYING in front of the whole waiting room. Normally, they have me sit in a chair until my blood pressure goes down.

I barely got any relief either. There may have been a couple days where it was not "as bad", but to- day is my follow up and I will be telling him that it only partially helped.

He also led me to believe that these were diagnostic and I would get Radio Frequency next. Now he is saying "maybe", to that.

His whole attitude has changed toward me. It is a workers comp injury and they have been requiring all these phone conferences from him. He is annoyed by this but it is NOT MY FAULT.

I had radio frequency on my lumbar facet joints. The RIGHT side went great. The left side left me unable to walk, move, get out of a chair, or even get dressed. My husband had to wait on me 24/7 for 12 days. I called to tell the doctor, and he would NOT call back! We called for 5 days and then he did call back on SATURDAY, only to tell me to go to the ER! I went in in a wheel chair, got (3) shots. One of morphine, then (2) of dilaudid. NONE of the shots worked! I did not even get sleepy. Six hours in the ER and I left in a wheel chair same amount of pain and NO MOBILITY.

HE DID NOT EVEN CARE TO FIND OUT WHY I COULD NOT WALK FOR 12 WHOLE DAYS!
IT seems when things do not go as planned, they distance you and try and get rid of you.

Today I expect he is going to discharge me. I am taking my husband into the room with me.

I then went to a neurosurgeon. He thinks I need an S-I & L-5 fusion. Part of it would have a "flexible" rod to give me more mobility and he would use a plastic mixed with STEM CELLS so bone would hopefully regrow.

I have also called for a hearing with the Commissioner since W.C. cut my meds off with no form and no reason. I run out in a few days. The hearing is AFTER me not having medications I have been taking for over 10 years now. CAN THEY DO THIS? IT sounds very irresponsible to me.

I hope SOMEONE responds if they have anything helpful to add, or just an encouraging word~

Thanks and hope you all have a better day......

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on 10/01/2012 11:11am

To Rootgal: Thank you for replying. I think I am going to go to a different
site and post my questions. This one is crazy! Hope you do feel better
soon.

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