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Cervical and Lumbar herniations /annular tear- severe pain daily-and Comp Dr. says I'm ok- Advise please, I'm tired of all the drugs that barely take the edge off of the pain, and the countless docs that never really help.

From: Chris P - on 03/02/2011 10:31am

This will be long winded, I'm sorry for that- but I'm hoping to find some answers to the many questions I have. I was injured @ my job back in 06- what started out as sprains/strains has now turned into a complete nightmare for me. The end result is: MRI
Lumbar Issues :Findings
L2- L3, L3-L4, L4-L5: Minimally bulging disc. No spinal stenosis or foraminal narrowing.
L3-L4,L4-L5: Minor ligamentous hypertrophy facet arthropathy.
L5-S1: In the interval, there has been near total spontaneous reduction of previously noted mild left parsacentral disc protrusion herniation. Minor residual . Accentuated by minor retrolisthesis. Focal signal is now present at the posterior disc space. Mild ligamentous hypertrophy facet arthropathy. Impression:
1. Near total spontaneous reduction of previously noted mild left paracentral disc protrusion herniation L5-S1 with inferior migration with minor residual. Development of subtle tear posterior annulus L5-S1.
2. Minor degenerative change again noted elsewhere lower thorasic lumbar spine. No mass effect or displacement of neural structure.
3. Slight loss of lordosis, minor scoliosis. Minor retrolisthesis L5 an S1 unchanged.
4. Minor wedged configuration to T 12 again noted most likely congenital less likely prior trauma.
5. With the exception of interval change L5-S1 no other interval changes noted.
This was done on 8/31/10- I had a Caudal Injection ( 2ND ) done on 6/18/10- at the time of the procedure something went wrong- the doc double injected me - claiming that his syringes were malfunctioning- I've been in severe pain daily since - "yet according to the new MRI @ L5-S1 - I'm better. It took till Feb 2011 for the Dr. to see me again(personally) - for 6 consecutive months I saw his NP. He is of course not admitting to any wrong doing, saying that I'm blaming him for the pain- well I guess I might be, SINCE THE CONSTANT PAIN STARTED THE DAY OF MY LAST INJECTION!!!!! (and lets include the fact that ,no where in his notes is there any mention of malfunctioning syringes) He is far more concerned with covering his own b#$t, than finding out what happened and possibly finding a way for me to be relieved of this miserable pain. My Neuro doc says that the next step is a discogram with a poss fusion to follow ( not looking forward to that).
I have constant pain in my lower back, numbness and tingling in both of my legs and feet. Shooting pains, ( like electrical shocks ) in my feet , that run up my legs and wake me in the middle of the night. A feeling of bugs crawling all over me- I feel a warm sensation in my lower back for no apparent reason. I use a cane most days, because my left leg/knee buckles on me without warning- just a sharp/shooting pain, and then I'm riding the stairs down on my tail end. This has happened to many times now, so I was prescribed a new walking device so that I may possibly help to catch myself if need be. I ice my back 5 + times a day- I take pain meds and muscle relaxers 4 times a day, and apply pain patches 3 a day. I do daily stretching, and Chiro and PT , with no relief at all.
As for my neck: Cervical Findings
C4-5, minimal diffuse bulge noted.
C5-6, there is a small broad based diffuse disc bulge minimally more prominent on the right that the left. There is only minimal effacement of the CSF. No cord flattening.
C6-7, there is a small central slightly right sided herniation which is not touching the cord. There is only minimal CSF effacement.
C7-T1, There is a small paracentral right sided disc herniation without mass effect.
Impression: Variety of minor disc abnormalities. No cord compression. No foraminal encroachment.
I have again, severe pain daily. I do Chiro, and PT for my neck- which only seems to cause me to have more pain, severe muscle spasms in my neck/head that last for days on end (the PT is the culprit there- Chrio seems to be my only + in all of this). The only way to stop the spasms is to go to the ER for a stronger dose of pain/anti-inflammatory meds (and let's not forget - being labeled a drug seeker). Again , I do ice mostly- and I also apply heat in the am- the heat helps me start to move - I'm sure we all have our rituals that help us cope with the miserable pain we feel on a daily basis.
My EMG upper extremities findings are (short version) Chronic bilateral C5/C6 radiculopathy.
My Lower EMG findings are - Chronic bilateral L5 and S1 radiculopathy.

I can't seem to find a way of sleeping that doesn't make some part of my arms/fingers or legs/toes go numb- or cause severe lower back pain - or that won't affect my sciatic nerve on the left side to ache like h#ll.
I have been in this pain for far too long, I take Hydrocodone10/500 4 times a day, Flexeril 10mg 4 times a day, and I put Lidoderm Patches on 3 a day. I ice both areas, I do my PT/Chiro and daily stretches- but I'm still in major pain. Now the comp doc, says that I'm fine and that I may return to work with a no standing/walking/or bending for any length of time limitations- How the H#ll am I to do that- I've been out since 8/2008, if I do go out (appt's only) I have to be home to take a nap mid day- because I'm so drugged up. Yet he says that my condition is guarded ?????? And that the only thing I need as far as tx is an @ home exercise program......Duh, I have that already, it's called just trying to make it through another day- with my countless rituals ie., ice ,stretching, PT exercises - tens unit being worn when I'm not ice'n - am I missing something here?
If this sounds familiar to anyone, please send me your advise- I've been reading through this site for over a month now- some of the horror stories are hitting close to home - I know I can relate to many of you. I just seem overwhelmed by all of this and could really use some new ideas.
Also, to add insult to injury- I was in a MVA on 4/09 (not my fault- I was a front seat pass. we were hit on the driver's side and we proceeded off the road and came to a stop when we hit a pine tree head -on at approx. 45mph,) that caused me to feel immediate pain on the RT side of neck- feels like a wedge slammed into it- so lucky me - I now have to deal with Comp and No Fault ( stupid name for something .... when we all know whose fault it was )- that person is covered, and I get to deal with Dr.s and Lawyers and longer tx's - more meds and , alot more pain - totally sick of all the red tape that we have to go through just to get some help - and prove that we have MORE injuries. I would give anything to be without this pain- it just weighs on your mind and totally depresses the H#LL out of you. It drains you of everything, making life so much harder- there has to be something that will help out there. Trying to explain this to someone who doesn't live with the pain is almost impossible - since you have all your limbs, there are no visible scars- so in their eyes you are prolly faking it.- we, here on this site know all too well that we're in severe chronic pain- we didn't chose this , and we would greatly appreciate some real help to alleviate the pain and get our lives back !!!
Thanks so very much,
Chris

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on 03/04/2011 9:31pm

Dear Chris P.
All i can say is WOW.....NO joke ,your story and conditions are almost DITTO to mine,too long to even explain ,but all i can say is you cannot give up because that is what work comp wants,and the problem is you are stuck with these problems for life.Get yourself a good attorney and good doctor(not one of their's) their only concern is to get your case closed and be done with you.After 6 mos of me working with the claims adjuster myself and hoping she would be fair.(that was a big joke) i was forced to get an attorney and am so glad i did,I have the best of the best.What state do you live in,i would love to refer you.In three weeks i get my lumbar fusion and then we will do my neck,but it was not without a fight.
I understand the car accident thing because i got rear ended about a month ago coming home from my doc appointment,the other persons fault.,now dealing with all that too.My neck pain got so much worse after that,i am so tired of being in pain.Please hold on to HOPE ,even if it is just a shred,GOD has been getting through all this ,and the added bonus is I KNOW he is always for me so matter what they tried to block through this long ,ugly ordeal,EVERYTHING so far has gone in my favor.
It just takes a lot of patience and perseverance.Please let me know if you need any help through all this,i feel i have gained a lot of knowledge and inner strength in knowing how to deal with this system.Take Care.
Blessings,
Nurse Nancy in pain

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on 03/05/2011 2:59am

Hi Chris,
One more question,when did all this work comp stuff start?You have the right to get your own doc with the help of an attorney.That is a bunch of CRAP.....SORRY ,BUT I AM A BIT ANNOYED.For them to say your condition is guarded....WHAT ???? You have some REAL issues here that will not go away,i get so annoyed that they think home exercise program should take care of it all?They told me the same thing,...HELLO ,do they think any of us ever really want to resort to getting the knife????I wanted nothing more than to have all that other stuff we tried to have worked!I am 50 years old,and have never had surgery except a tubal ligation.I was happy,fit and pain free,living a good life prior to June 10th,2009.Sorry to rant and rave,but i call it a righteous anger,so unfair that we all get grouped into one category"a fraud".Take Care Chris
Nurse Nancy in pain

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on 03/05/2011 2:59am

Hi Chris,
One more question,when did all this work comp stuff start?You have the right to get your own doc with the help of an attorney.That is a bunch of CRAP.....SORRY ,BUT I AM A BIT ANNOYED.For them to say your condition is guarded....WHAT ???? You have some REAL issues here that will not go away,i get so annoyed that they think home exercise program should take care of it all?They told me the same thing,...HELLO ,do they think any of us ever really want to resort to getting the knife????I wanted nothing more than to have all that other stuff we tried to have worked!I am 50 years old,and have never had surgery except a tubal ligation.I was happy,fit and pain free,living a good life prior to June 10th,2009.Sorry to rant and rave,but i call it a righteous anger,so unfair that we all get grouped into one category"a fraud".Take Care Chris
Nurse Nancy in pain

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on 03/05/2011 2:59am

Hi Chris,
One more question,when did all this work comp stuff start?You have the right to get your own doc with the help of an attorney.That is a bunch of CRAP.....SORRY ,BUT I AM A BIT ANNOYED.For them to say your condition is guarded....WHAT ???? You have some REAL issues here that will not go away,i get so annoyed that they think home exercise program should take care of it all?They told me the same thing,...HELLO ,do they think any of us ever really want to resort to getting the knife????I wanted nothing more than to have all that other stuff we tried to have worked!I am 50 years old,and have never had surgery except a tubal ligation.I was happy,fit and pain free,living a good life prior to June 10th,2009.Sorry to rant and rave,but i call it a righteous anger,so unfair that we all get grouped into one category"a fraud".Take Care Chris
Nurse Nancy in pain

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on 03/07/2011 4:23pm

Hi Nancy,
Thanks for reading my post, and your responses. Sorry I didn't get right back to you, I had a SS examination on Fri- they couldn't have picked a better day for me (was one of the worst days for me with my pain level ). I think the 1 1/2 hr drive there was what caused everything to flare, so I've been out of commission since then. I started all of this in 9/06, it has progressively worsened over the last four yrs. I live in NYS- not to far from Syracuse - where are you at ? I have an attorney, got him within 60 days of my injury, because there was a nurse from Comp- constantly contacting me (pretending to try to help me ), she drove me crazy. I was in a lot of pain, and I had said something like " I wasn't looking forward to getting back to work right away " ( because of the pain I would be in- I worked in a stock room ) . And she turned it all around and said that I wasn't happy with my job- and I was looking for a way out of it. She went so far as to say , she would meet me at my next Dr. appt-Thats when I got the Lawyer , never heard from her again LOL. I have had one Surgery Consult, for the back. They said they wanted to do a discogram, with a possible fusion to follow, tha was if the PT didn't work - it didn't , that was 2 months ago.
I'm sure I'll be heading back to WC court soon, they just had me do an IME about 2 weeks ago- that Dr. was a smuck , the whole exam lasted about 90 secs. and he said I'm ok. I wanted to cry when I got that report from him. I walked in there using a cane( I have to sometimes as my left leg will give out on me without notice). No where in his report was my cane mentioned- and he gave certain degreees on how I moved and bending. He used no instrument other than the reflex hammer thing. I just love how they can lie, and there is no repercussions for them- but if you or I get caught doing something one day out of 5 years(because we had a good day , and pushed ourselves) and they hang us out to dry.
I will keep you in my prayers , that your surgery goes well and that you have a complete recovery. It's not an easy decision to make, kinda scary , but if you feel comfortable and totally trust your doc- then go for it. I think I will have at least one more consult for my back- I requested to see the Dr. personally for my consult - I've been there 2 times and I have never seen him. If he can't take the time to meet me, and go over my MRI's and tx plan - then I'm not sure I want him to be the one in the OR with me . I went to him, because I used to work in a Hospital- on the Ortho unit as a secretary- I worked with him weekly- I liked the way he treated his patients( he was always looking out for them ). I want his opinion, not his PA's-that is why I chose him and not some other Dr.
Gotta run, LOL ok maybe walk :) - really need to rest by back and neck now. Take care my friend and God Bless
Chris

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on 03/07/2011 4:58pm

Hi Chris,
I live in California,but i was born and raised in Henrietta,New York.I am glad you have a good attorney and hopefully a good doc you feel is for you,i got so sick of dealing with the lying docs who never touched me and had the nerve to post parameters....uggh!I basically fired my nurse case manager once i got the attorney,mostly because prior to that she did nothing for me and worked for the insurance company.I became my own nurse case manager and at least i was able to move the epidurals and that stuff along.Sounds like you got a good handle on all this,and remember you need to stay on top with the help of your attorney and basically outsmart them on their own ridiculous game.You will eventually get taken care of it just sucks that i think we will always life with some degree of pain.Trying to just stay positive and keep my faith.Take Care,
Nurse Nancy in pain

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on 03/08/2011 12:32am

Chris P, while I am new at all this, sounds like your attorney should be making sure you get the treatment you need. If you retained him shortly after the injury then why are things amuck? I am hoping that is not the way it will be for me. I have not retained an attorney yet but will be very soon. I was hurt at work too. I know that I am damaged for life. I hope you get good medical care and treatment. Speak loud and dont take no for an answer. Good luck.

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on 03/08/2011 10:14am

Hi Pocahontas 1,
I retained my attorney back in 06- a friend of mine referred me to him ( she still speaks very highly of him- my belief is that every case is different though and it requires different plan of action ). I have some doubts now, with regard to what he has done for me. I told him upfront that I wasn't looking to settle for a lump sum- I was more interested in making sure that I'm covered medically for the rest of my life with regard to all my injuries. I just spoke with him about a week ago, and now he says that I should get an Orthopedic Consult on my back- not just a Neuro one. I'm looking into that now, but I feel that we should be in more contact than we are- I only seem to hear from him if court is coming up, I know he's busy-but sometimes I just feel left out on my own . He suggested I the Chiro doc that I see weekly (and have since 08 ), but now he says that I should have seen other doc's for their opinion as well - like I haven't tried to get more medical advice. I'm at the Chiro or PT at least 3 times a week- also a PM doc & PC Physician once a month - plus a few I'm sure I forgot about. I tell them exactly how I feel always - I'm the one that requested to be seen by PM and the Neuro without any advise from him. I was just going to Chiro as often as the doc wanted me to-I just felt that I really wasn't getting anywhere medically with only him ( not worse, just at a standstill ) I've been out of work since 08 and have put @ least 1000 + miles per month on my car since then for Dr. appts- I think that is a lot. All I do is go to Dr.s - if I was suppose to see someone else then you would think it would have been suggested by someone other than myself, right ?

K enough about me, lets chat about you....When were you hurt ? What are your injuries? My advise to you - is to read through as many post on here that are similar to your situation. Don't be frightened , there are many horror stories- but there is just as much valuable information that you will need to be able to stay on top of all that you will encounter . Get an attorney- ASAP-take your own advise with regard to "speak loud and don't take no for an answer" keep pushing forward and always keep the faith ( sometimes that is all you will have to hold on to ). It will, no doubt be a long and hard struggle- but you have to keep fighting these ins. co. - like Nurse Nancy said " they are only out for themselves - NEVER YOU .

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on 03/08/2011 11:12am

HI Nurse Nancy,
Henrietta NY is about 150 miles from where I actually live- I've been to LA, to catch a cruise ship back in 07- was a wonderful experience to say the least :) . I felt the best, when I was there- and the whole trip to Mexico- was almost pain free or at least at a level in which I could live with. I seriously need to move to a much warmer climate.( we just got pounded with about 3 1/2 ' of snow yesterday-couldn't even see my car-was hidden by all the snow drifts LOL) If you read my post to Pocahontas- I do question my choice in Lawyers. But then again , I've only used a lawyer one other time in my life ( and it had nothing to do with injuries), so I'm just not sure if I'm asking for too much- and reading him the wrong way. I hate doubting myself and him- just always worried I'll be taken for a ride is all- I guess. I know the ins. co. is totally looking out for them - and like you said " they want to be rid of me" - seems so cruel as to what tricks or games they will play at our expense. We are just $$$$$ signs to them- and we need to just disappear in their eyes.

Is there another Dr. that you think would be beneficial to me ? I knew the Neuro, and PM where good choices, was thinking of acupuncture, but the lawyer said no ( that he doesn't think they would be of any help physically), he says others have tried it - with no improvement. I still keep in touch with a few of the nurses I used to work with- and most feel that I should really look to surgery. But I also know- that with one surgery, down the road there will most likely be more. Fusions seem to work for a few years- and I'm hoping to be around for at least 25-30 more years- just don't want to have something done to early- and then be in the same boat 7or so years down the road (does any of that make sense ?). But I also have been thinking of what you said about nerve damage- my hands/fingers have been numb and tingling every morning for some time now- but have recently become more of an issue- they used to start having the feeling back in them within mins of me moving- but now it is taking anywhere from 30-60 or so mins to get the feeling back in them. They are really numb- to the point where it's very hard to pick up anything.
Do you have any idea if my last experience with the PM shots , could have possibly caused Arachnoiditis- or is that something that takes much more tx's and time to develop ?Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated my friend. My brain is fried at this point LOL - still hanging in there though :)
Blessings to you;
Chris

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on 03/08/2011 12:35pm

Nurse Nancy,

Just one more question, for the Comp Dr. to say that my condition is " guarded", What exactly is he saying? I think I may be totally misinterpreting that statement - I thought that it was the only thing in my favor from his opinion. Thanks so much for your help, I do so appreciate anything you have to offer .
God Bless my friend
Chris

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on 03/08/2011 5:52pm

Hi Chris,
Not sure what he means by guarded,but is this your doc or one of their docs not on your side?Also i correspond with my attorney with emails,i always get my questions answered promptly.is that a possibility?In regard to acupuncture i have to agree,not a long term solution.I have a board certified ortho surgeon treating me and i am quite pleased.Surgery in 2 weeks.Keep in touch.
Many blessings,
Nurse Nancy inpain

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on 03/08/2011 6:25pm

i pinched my nerve in 2008 at work and was diagnoised with pinch nerve at the c6 nerve root and a bone spur and a hernitated disc and then i fell at work in 2009 i fell hard enough i tore my rotar cuff and now have to screws in my arm and when i fell i fell straight down with my right arm extended trying to break my fall and was diagnoised a few months later cause myt boss never filed on either one of these injuried right after they happened even though he knew about them but did manage to accomadate me with breaks and only working days i think that was out of guilt for not filing on time and then it took a few more months after they finally made file for me to even get started on my arm and they still have done nothing for my neck or back i have been diagnoised with multi small buldging disc and also diagnoised with a small non compressed hernated disc and a pich nerve c6 at the root im constantly in pain i know how you feel the pain meds take the edge off the therapy kills me the one thing that work comp has agreed to pay for at the moment is my arm surgery but they say there not responsible for my back even though i fell hard enough to have to put to screws in my arm and before i fell i need neck surgery so i understand somewhat of what your going thru everyone tells you that your fine well if im so fine then why do i hurt like hell 24/7 havent sleep hours at night in over 2 yrs between needing neck surgery starting in 08 then in 09 needing arm surgery and therapy for my back the pain is sometimes unbearable and your right if your not going thru it you wouldnt understand it so i can feel for you i know almost exactly how you feel and now there trying to force me to go to work try to do therapy to get the strength in my arm back from the arm surgery but they dont understand nothing has been done yet for neck and back cause there fighting it i have asked for the injury reports 5 different times with supneoas and they stil have not reproduce them so i can get all this taken care of so i know what you mean about the lawyers the red tap all the stress and pain i can relate to all that so i hope you find something that can help you cause i sure havent yet i just deal everyday with it in pain just like you 24/7 and everyone tell me im fine well i was fine until i got hurt in 08 and o9 thats the weird part that i keep telling them i had the same dr for 15 yrs never seen her for anything related to any of this so you know its just amazing how no onecan believe you can be in that much pain but believe me understand exactly what your saying i hope you find yourself well and i have had emgs thoracic mri cervical mri i just dont know what more testing they can do that they havent done if all this doesnt show whats going on with all this lower back pain sometimes it hurts so bad you just cant walk i have try to go to work i havent been able to work over 3 hours in that resturant it sucks you i use to work 35 to 53 hours a week before 08 i hate it and all this pain and everyone thinking your ok or you just cant be hurting that bad that part truly amazes me take care

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on 03/09/2011 12:54am

Hi Debbie,
Awwww,hon ,i read your post,i thought i was reading my own story no joke!I injured my shoulder,low back and neck all from being thrown from a chair at work in 09 on an outstretched arm.Please get yourself a good attorney and NEVER give up!!!!My back surgery is finally gonna happen in 2 weeks and then hopefully my neck after that after going through hell with work comp for the past almost 2 years.They want you to give up ,but don't.You know you are hurt and it is between you and God,HE will help you.Please let me know if you want my email or phone number,i would love to talk to you and help in any way i can.
Blessings,
Nurse Nancy in pain

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on 03/10/2011 1:37pm

Hi Debbie,
Wow, this is like something I would have written. You would think that with so many people, in similar situations- that there would be some kind of law PROTECTING US. I'm so sick and tired of repeating myself when I go to the Dr.s - I've been saying the same thing now, since 9/06- now I tell them " the story is the same as it was 4 + years ago." it hasn't changed, nor will it because it's THE TRUTH !!!!! They all need to wake up , and listen to what we say- If I had the proper treatment way back then, I would not be is this bad of shape. All I can tell you my friend, is to keep fighting ( and repeating ) yourself to everyone involved- eventually they will listen ( they have no other choice ). Keep you faith, you will need some form of it to get you through it all. I totally understand where your coming from, I used to work 3 or 4 - 121/2 hr shifts per week- was doing fine financially- was looking for a home to purchase for my children/myself- life was good. And then it hit me like a ton of bricks- It was becoming more difficult to do everyday things. I couldn't tolerate the pain any longer- the pain meds I had ( I would only take on my days off ) because I almost killed myself driving home one night from work ( because I had taken one while at work ) I went off the road, Thank God for the things that make your tires go BUMP...BUMP.... on the side of the highway now or I may not have been here today.
Bosses and Dr.s need to be reminded constantly of the situation- the bosses are usually only out for themselves- at least in my case she was. I was fired from my job, because I couldn't return to work without restrictions- duh, they hired me with restrictions ( and now they say I have to come back full time, with NO restrictions) I will never be without restriction- for the rest of my life!!!! This was a hospital. and my boss was a Nurse - she knew what she was doing. She had remorse, she could have cared less how I was going to take care of myself and children.
Are your injuries covered under Comp at all ?? If so , you could keep fighting ( have your lawyer do most of it ) with the ins co.- you could have the your back put in as a causally related injury. Have you ever been seen by a Chiropractor? That is whom my attorney suggested- he seems to be the one that has gotten me most of what I needed. Now I'm looking to possibly have surgery in my lower back ( been doing a lot of research on my own- it's exhausting to say the least). Keep fighting for what you want and need. You know you body better than anyone of the docs, there are answers for us, but we have to find them on our own, unfortunately. Try to stay positive, it's hard- but it help us all the way around- stress only causes us more pain ( and lord knows we have more than our share of pain to deal with daily ).
Keep me informed as to how your doing-
Will pray for you,
Chris

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on 03/10/2011 8:44pm

Hi Chris and gang, sorry ive not answered ur earlier questions til now. ive been busy interviewing lawyers think ive found a keeper. i was also started on cymbalta and go sick and was in the bed all day one day this week- saw psychiatrist today. she said i need a lawyer. yep.
I was hurt at work 2 years ago which resulted in multi level cerivcal disc disease, cervical radiculopathy, left shoulder tear. i worked in agony for a year and finally came to terms with the fact that I am really damaged and began the process of finding out what was wrong with me. the workers comp doc at first tried to brush me off---said i had "anxiety" and asked me about my personal life...i bout knocked her out as I sat and listened to her insult me in such a way...if i could sue her i would love to. when all is said and done, i will pay her a visit...not for revenge but for education purposes. i thankfully have a really good GP who is looking out for me 100% and my neursurgeon is good but states fusion is 50-50 for positive results. bad odds. so im pretty controlled daily on drugs. im out of work. found a lawyer that seems to be right on. i am trusting him. i put in writing my goals and he said he would achieve all of them for me. I have got to try and not micro manage as I am a bit of a control freak. i have been my own advocate and have gotten this far on my own but i know the fight has only begun.

I have been reading lots of post. I am so sorry to hear of your pain and injuries. I am praying for you.

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on 03/12/2011 10:02am

Hi Pocahontas
Sounds like you have things under control- which is great. A definite plus that you have found an attorney that you totally trust- that's not easy. It seems the whole team you have are working in your favor- just keep up with all of it- never leave and office with doubt/questions- be upfront and adamant in everything- as by the sounds of it - you already are.
I too have many cervical problems-I've yet to find what is going to work for me. There seems to be to many hands in the mix ( so to speak) - far to many people involved - without a real answer to the problems. My lawyer says that my injuries aren't as bad as most of his clients, yet - then why do I have severe pain 24/7? For my neck , he say that most people wouldn't have surgery- well I believe that we are all different- and each of us has our own level of tolerance to pain. I thought mine was high 4 years ago- but I have seemed to go to the other side now. I can't tolerate this pain like I use to-anyone that I've talked to ( that has injuries ),or any kind of knowledge about the spine agrees with me - I have a reason to feel the pain that I feel. Great, now can I find a happy medium - so that I might have some form of quality of life - something that will give me back 50 % of the life I used to have.
As for the Comp Dr., well lets just say they are looking for a way out of paying you anything. They are there for comp, not us. It's pretty obvious- since most of their IME only last 90 secs to 2 mins, I know there is NO way any qualified Dr. could make an honest conclusion of our medical/physical condition in that amount of time. Hopefully the Judges see this BS- and call them on it. Don't stop " being a control freak " as you put it- it's your body/life and only you will be able to make them stop and take responsibility for all that has happened to you- your lawyer will be the legal beagle for your defense ( he knows all the tricks they play ).
If your meds are controlling your pain now- and you can live with it, go with it for now. Keep moving as much as you can- staying idol will only make the injuries worse in the long run. You know surgery should be your last resort- and from what you read- 50/50 shot at feeling better. You will truly know when you hit that point ( when nothing you try brings any relief to the pain). Unfortunately we will all probably reach that point sooner than we'd like. It's just that with one surgery, most likely will turn into another years down the road, and how many surgeries can we have- or will they even bring us enough relief/ or the opposite - more pain and more limitations to our movements.
Good luck to you my friend- God Bless you
Chris

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on 03/16/2011 11:23am

To Nurse Nancy,
Hi, hope all is well with you-is your lumbar surgery still planned for next week ? I was wondering why you are going through the surgery with an Ortho Dr ? I have some questions, like why not a Neuro Surgeon ? I've been by the Neuro- and was told that a discgram with a poss. fusion would be our plan of tx. But I was told by my attorney to see an Ortho Dr. , for a second opinion (for my back) . I'm stuck in the middle here,as what to do now. I know personally- and with advise on here, that back Dr's do backs- and Ortho Dr.s do hips/knees/legs/+ a few other things. I realize that the Ortho's do backs, but are not as experienced with the back issues- as they are with what they are specialized in. Just confused a bit here is all- I'm currently looking for a second opinion- now I'm not so sure it should be with the Ortho Dr. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. If I don't hear from you- I wish you the best for surgery'recovery- blessings to you
Chris

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on 03/16/2011 7:03pm

Hi Chris,
Yes ,my surgery is on for next friday,i will take my laptop in case i can do an update while i am in the hospital,well i guess that will depend on how much pain i am in.I have a great ortho doc who has done a lot of back surgeries,so i would maybe get a recommendation for one that is experienced with back surgeries as a second opinion.Keep me updated,thanks for your concern.i am getting a little nervous but happy i am moving forward with this.
Take Care Chris,
Nurse Nancy

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on 03/18/2011 11:14am

HI Nurse Nancy,

Thanks for getting back to me- I will continue to look for the Ortho doc. It's not easy around here- there aren't any for like 75 miles or so. I guess it's worth the effort/drive to find one that I can trust :). I will let you know what I find. I'll be saying a prayer for you - that all goes well ( I'm sure it will). You will be back up and enjoying life again real soon my friend- just keep the positive flowing . Let us know how it all turned out for you, when you're up to it. How long will you be in the hospital, and or rehab?
Chris

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on 03/18/2011 9:13pm

Hi Chris,
I will be in the hospital 3-5 days,hopefully three.God has given me a real sense of peace this past week,i am happy about that.I will pray you will find the right doctor just like i did.
Blessings,
Nancy

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on 03/24/2011 7:08pm

Hello Spine Universe friends,
Please pray for me,my surgery is tomorrow morning at 10:30,i am a little nervous but i will update from the hospital if i can.
Blessings,
Nurse Nancy

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on 03/24/2011 8:24pm

Hi Nurse Nancy,

Best wishes to you, for your surgery and speedy recovery. Please let us know how everything went for you, as soon as you are feeling up to it. I Will keep you in my prayers - God Bless
Chris

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on 03/24/2011 11:13pm

Good luck, Nancy. Praying for you.

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on 03/25/2011 10:40am

Hi Chris, I've had very similar problems. I hurt myself at work, I used to care for the disabled & elderly & had a really bad fall on top of a couple of other previous work injuries. I haven't worked since Nov. 2000. I've been through bankruptsy etc. You name it as a result. Aug 2008 I had shoulder surgery I now have 2 metal pins permanently. Oct. 2009 lowerback L5S1 fusion etc. Basically they took out most of the L5 disc put it into a grinder to bone grafted 3 other discs. With the L5 built a cage around it placed 2 steel rods & 4 screws to insure no more movement. I also have a neck injury which my back surgeon has specifically said - DO NOT LET ANYONE DO SURGERY ON YOUR NECK. I said why it's driving me crazy with pain( I cannot stay upright any longer than half an hour because the weight of my head causes the pressure build up to cause the disc to bulge. He said apart from my injury we age and the discs degenerate. That's life! I would be in much more pain following surgery and the rest of my life. I don't get out much due to the pain Iive with daily but the 1 thing I have learnt is accept the things I cannot change. The only medication that has given me relief is oxynorm. It gives me some quality of life, better than nothing. I found sustain release medications useless & I was constantly drowsey through the day. Oxynorm releases straight away not sit in the gut for hours. You can't take too much or you will be physically sick which is a good monitor. All your results say minor not moderate to severe like mine so try & get a balance of meds, rest, exercise etc. Once I started to pay attention to what agravated my pain levels I began to feel better. I find the more I complain the worse I feel. I don't like my life but it is what it is & all I can do a day at a time is the best I can. I do hope things get better for you. One thing I'd like to add. After my back surgery I have had constant exhaustion so sometimes I wonder did I do the wrong thing having surgery. Its been nearly a year & a half so time will tell I guess. Never stop smiling & Never give up! :-)

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on 03/26/2011 6:11pm

HI I JUST READ YOUR INQUIRY. I HAVE MANY MANY BACK ISSUES. I N A FEW MONTHS I WILL BE HAVING OUTPATIENT LASER SPINE SURGERY. PLEASE LOOK AT THESE WEB SITES. I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL HELP YOUR SITUATION BUT HERE GOES....WWW.LASER-SPINE.COM ANDLASERSPINEINSTITUTE.COM.

GOD BLESS

MISSMUFFIN

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on 03/29/2011 5:59pm

Hi Nevergiveup,
Thank you for your response, I totally get where your at with it. Your injuries are far more worse than mine- you must suffer dearly from all it- I'm sorry for that. I know my injuries aren't nearly as bad as yours and others, which totally frustrates me ( because I shouldn't be in all this pain ), but I am. I used to be physically fit, would work out , I heat by wood- and would do most of that by myself, now it kills me to even put wood in the stove.
I'm not sure about surgery for either of my problems, but I have to get the consults just the same. Someone , somewhere has to be able to explain why I'm in so much pain. I tried to go without my meds for one day- and let me tell you I suffered for a week after- just trying to get the inflammation to go back down ( to relieve some of the pain).
I know that most people will suffer more, after surgery- usually their pain will be the same if not worse- so having surgery to get rid of the pain - is not a wise choice. With so much medical advancements in this world , you would think that something could be done for us- like your name says Never give up !!! I hope your feeling better soon- recovery takes a long time my friend- try to think positive and you will get there.
Chris

Hi Missmuffin,
Thanks for the web sites, I will definitely check them out. When is your surgery? And what is it exactly ?
Chris

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on 04/16/2011 4:38pm

Hi Missmuffin.....very curious to know how your laser spine procedure went. Anyone else? I feel for and understand all of y'alls problems. Just remember all doctors that you are sent to by WC or SS are on their payrolls and are rewarded for getting you off their books! Stick with your own doctors and
lawyers!!! My history is so long and complicated, I will leave it at........keep moving, don't ever give up and find doctors who understand and care about YOU!

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