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severe lower back pain and severe right shoulder pai

Started by rlearch on 05/03/2010 5:12pm

Mu husband is 48 years old and has been in pain for years! A few years ago, he found out he had ruptured/heriated dics in his back.His PCP sent him to a Doctor at Strong Hospt. who told him to go to sports physical therapy (my husband climbs poles for a living installing cable). The physical therapy was a joke!!! The doctor then subscribed some Ibprofin and told him to basically live with it! The Doctors name was Dr. ORSINI @ Strong. My husband just went to his PCP today because his right shoulder is killing him (he had an injury years ago and now his right arm is 1 1/2 longer than the left. (He still has severe back pain). Today the doctor referred him to an orthopedic doctor (she thinks he has bursitis in hs shoulder) - he also had blood and x-rays done today . My husband called to make an appointment to see the specialist and the secretary asked him if it was work related? My husband said it might be due to the job of cable work he's be doing for 15+ years. She told him he had to go through Workman's Comp.....WHAT???!!! We pay$1200.00 a month out of our pocket for MVP health insurance and we want service!!!! For my husband to go through workmans comp.,he would most definetly lose his job and he really doesn't know if his pain is because of work. Is there a doctor out there who can REALLY help him????????

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Have you done your xrays for cervical & lumbar spine ? pain is because the way he is using his body.nobody guides us how to use it & work on it to prevent it from disease.but i can help you definatelly.See we always use hands & legs i.e we move peripheri from center so from where movement happens it gets damage.so learn to move center from peripheri.this is the first basic thing you must learn.i can teach this but you are far away. through mail we have to try. i teach with props. so if you are interested keep in touch.my advice is never go for any surgery.

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Due to the fact that so many back/neck/shoulder issues are work related just a regular ? for this dr. This person does not know u, and just about any dr, can bill workmans comp. U DO NOT DO it yourself. Try another Dr. A few ago, I hurt myself at work and was out for 11 wks. This will be paid for by workmens comp. NOT your husbands employer, they pay into it for u. Well, 11 wks, I got a paycheck at (60 or 70%) yrly salary (overtime included) all drs bills, medicine, PT tests etc are paid by comp. Don;t look down on Comp, its helpful. But he doesn't have to use it. Actually, you must get hurt IN work, call yr supervisor, and make a claim, IN WORK. Please try another hospital in your area.

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rlearch,

I understand how flustrated you are. I went through this. Please allow me to exsplain how the workmens comp. works. I do not know what State you live in, but I am in Arkansas.
Workmens Comp. is a company that HELPS the people. In my state it is called a no fault. Meaning that neither party is to blame. I also was afraid I would lose my job. I was alone made great money and once you are injuried it becomes hard to get another job if the new company is aware.

Now the Good news. If it is a case for workmens Comp. they will pay every medical bill as well pay your husband while he is off work. Not his normal salary but not far from it. Once he is released he will be offered a settlement from the company. You have nothing to lose. I first contacted workmens comp. in my state, they ask me first thing “ do you have a lawyer’? I said “ no I do not and do not know the law or what to do”. I was so surprized to see how fortunate I was, they exsplained they are on our side, they tell you all the laws, as well that is he is unable to return to his old job they provide schooling, they give the money directly to him. Now beware his employer will also have a person who at first will seem a" little TO NICE” , this is because they are an adjuster. They want him to seetle for the least ammount, they try to control what some Dr’s do as far as treatment. The whole of this story is getting information! Number one. Call your local workmens comp.
It was thought and currently still is that workmens comp is against a working man or woman.
NOT SO, they are for the working man and woman.
They guild you { long as you do not obtain a lawyer, they tell you all the laws and what you can do to protect yourself.
It is a great system, it is one that long ago was not as what we have today. Arkansas is a no fault state. Check your state may also be. The great thing is you do not need a attorney and that means any moneis awarded will go directly unto you and him!

LIST of steps to take;
1. look in the yellow pages or call around and find your local workmens comp.
2. mmore than likely it was a injury on the job, if so your in luck.
3. Workmens Comp will tell you each and every step to take.
4. listen to them
5. when the employer’s adjuster calls they will attempt to offer you less award for the injury.

My story;
I was injuried on the job
I was as you afraid I would lose my job
and the thing you need to know if the employer doesnt take him back then you are rewarded money.
This tends to give insentive for the company to return him to his old job, or one he can do.
If he is unable to continue at the old job they have to pay him enough monies to gain schooling so he can achieve the same ammount of pay. It is discrimmatation if they refuse to hire him back.
While he is off you have no worries on money to feed your family no worries on medical treatment and you do not have to hire a Attorney! Now a attorney would jump to get your case because they know this.
I was offered by the company I worked for only $4,000
I had been informed by workmens comp what the law was and what to do. Just be polite, when the companies adjuster { this is normally one or two people appointed to your case} they want you to be scared, if you are impowered by knowing the law and carefully let them know you already know your rights you can end up in a great position.
Information -knowledge is key!
I was offerd 4,000.00 I ended up with them paying over $100,000 in medical in 6 months
then I was awarded $70,000 cash because my employeer did not take me back to work/\.
This was 14 yrs ago. So see -you are dealing with someone who does have your best interests at heart.
Workmens comp has been misunderstood. Call the local office.
Be calm, I understand it is frightening. I was in the same shoes. It takes being off work 2 weeks and workmens comp will step in and you will recieve your normal salary/pay less -about $50.00 a week.

All medical paid, missed days of work are all covered.
Please before you dismiss workmens comp. look into it.
You may need to make several calls-but believe me you are a winner or at least compensated for his loss.
If you need help write again on this sight, click my name I will respond and attempt to help you along your journey......
I’m now 50 years old. I had to retire for my illness. I was rewarded enough money to pay for a new home. Plus all medical paid. DO NOT SIGN any release papers until he is well as he can be. This may take 1-1/2 yrs. I will gladley help you. In guiding you in this time of need.
I hope this reachs you before he continues to deny he was not injured at work-people do this for fear of lose of their job. No need to worry..... In reply to therapy;
the medical team takes a vary of steps to try and help him, first it is with therapy.
Next rest off of work.
Last resort surgery.
They do it this way because they are required to try everything and can say they tried every avenue before surgery.
It is just how the system works.
Please have him think about his injuries, my was spinal-it was 1-1/2 year later { after my injury } I just could not go on. I also was afraid of lose of my job-there is a silver linning, knowing where to look is key! I found it, you also have one, do not give up. If he does hard labor it is because of age and continued use of the back it is one of the most common reasons people are off work. 89% of the time is work related......have him think back to when it was just feeling like a sore muscle
this is how it actually may start. Write me I will help anyway I can....Take care,
..Complex regional pain syndrome

PS. they pay for his loss—this means if he lost say 10% of his strength, it will then be figured on a scale of his age and how many years he has left to live, thus a reward in cash. Then if he has to be reschooled this also is figured in with the ammount he is awarded for his injury.
I was drawing $300 aweek in missed pay { back in 95 } AND ALL MEDICAL was paid, then at the end I also was paid all the weeks every two weeks from the start to the end of what the Dr’s could do.
The grand total for me medical and wages every two weeks plus 10% total loss of body, in 1995
it came to $30,000 cash at the end of healing-health care $100,000 so they paid me over $130,000
all total! I never unerwent surgery. I went to court even though I settled out of court I repesented my self. I was only 35 when I did this......You will not loose......IF he is/was hurt at work.

LIKE the person’s above it does have to be work related-many people are just frightened, not knowing the ropes. RE-PORT it to his foreman!

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Some people HAVE NO choice but surgery. It helped me, but as the proffessional said “ do not have surgery” all cases are different, get several medical advises.....I got one who would not listen by the time I did have surgery I was down to only 10% bodily use! So, not all can avoid surgery to imply only by what is written here is not a way to determine if needed or not. Go to two different Dr’s. ones who do not know one another....I hope this makes since to you.

No one who just reads this can say you should or should not have surgery, test have to be done.
Best of Luck!

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10 YRS AGO MY HUSBAND GOT HURT AT WORK. WC STEPPED RIGHT IN AND HE REC A PAYCHECK, AND ALL RELATED EXPENSES PAID FOR BY WC. HE HAD SURGERY FOR HIS INJURY BUT THE DR CUT A NERVE SO HE WILL BE IN CHRONIC PAIN FOREVER. HE DID GET A LAWYER (VERY GOOD W/C ATTORNEY) HE WILL REC A PAYCHECK EVERY MONTH FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE, ALL MEDS R PAID FOR ETC.
DO NOT DISMISS WC. SO MANY PEOPLE ARE NOT REALLY HURT AND TRY TO GET ON WC. BE AWARE THEY WILL SEND SOMEONE OUT TO WATCH YOUR HOUSE AND MAKE SURE HE REALLY IS HURT. VERY SAD FOR US, THE HURTING POPULATION, THAT FAKING INJURIES IS SO COMMON. I BELIEVE THE COMPANY HAS TO HOLD OPEN HIS POSITION, OR SIMILAR ONE WHEN HE RETURNS TO WORK. MAYBE LIGHT DUTY COULD HELP HIM.

SO IF HIS INJURY IS WORK RELATED, DO WORK/COMP. BETTER THAN HAVING NO PAYCHECK WHILE HE GETS WELL, RIGHT...

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Their normal procedure is to find out if it is your health insurance is in need to bill, or Workmens comp.
This is in "your favor” { 90% of the time } depending on your state. Most states require your /his employeer to carry workmens comp. it is against the Law for his company to fire him for being injuried on the job. It would be descrimination on the companies part. I recommend using the workmens comp, this is why they are there. To protect the worker. Years ago the worker was in jeopardy of losing the job. Now with Federal work statues set, no longer are they allowed to let him go. This in fact secures his job. If they let him go they stand to be sued plus pay monies to you both for the loss of support of your family.
Not only being wise to your injuries but as well as the State and Federal Laws would be recommended. Descrimation is still a problem but with so many corp. and small business they now are under federal rules for the workers such as your husband.
Your health insurance can { there are some declaration clauses in personal insurance covery-they are called subrogation { meaning if a 3rd party pays for his loss of body or pay for your husbands injury they can make you pay the personal health insurance back. This is normally found at the first of your booklet and called a "subragation clause”. If you have this clause this means you/he would be required to repay all they do pay in hospital charges, so in most cases best to check to see if he is covered. These companies have sepecially appointed people to look into such cases. If he is /was injured at work-call your local workmens comp. office they tell you the rules for your state. They are normally based on what is really better for our workmen/women. Good luck and I do hope this information is helpful. You would not wish to re- pay something to your insurance that should normally be paid through workmens comp. AWARE; make sure it was a accident on the job. You both can attempt to rethink when the problems started, it should only be turned in as workmens comp. if he was injured at work. Other wise it is your health carriers duty to pay. If they seem slow to comply you may need to contact the Attorney generals office. They will get behind the case. As another person warns workmens compt may watch him, they do this to catch people who attempts to fraud a company. Just from what you write you sound as if you are trying to do what is right. I commend anyone to do correct, but then again if injuried on the job-the companies carry workmens comp. just for this sort of problem. They are required. Best of luck.

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HI, I am so sorry to hear of what you are going through. I too have great PPO and have been through the workers comp arena. Here are some ideas/options for you as I am well-versed in this area:
1) Anytime you mentioned workers comp, if it indeed is a workers comp than they have to make sure you report it and cannot legally bill or in some ways treat you as if you are a private pay patient. Workers comp is provided as an exclusive remedy to provide injured workers for medical benefits in the case of an accident.
2) The above being said, you may just want to start over with another doctor and just tell them about the pain and how long its been around. If the new clinic asks again if it work related and you don't or your husband do believe it is than say NO. You stated your husband had an injury years ago, was that work related?? If so you should have received benefits, if it was do to OUTSIDE OF WORK INJURY such as at home or in a car, than all of his complaints could be just coming from that. Tell the physician that years ago NON WORK RELATED the injury he had if it in case resulted in non work.
3) their are several instances where an individual does have pain or what they call cumulative injury which is when someone who has done same work for so long with reptitive work, like a secretary all of a sudden years later complaining of numbness, pain in her arms - carpal tunnel, they call this cumulative trauma so it was NOT necessarily a specific accident rather a cumulation of repetitive work. If a physician after treating you (spouse) later says he/she believes this is NOT from the years ago injury but do to work than you may have NO CHOICE then to report it. Your employer CANNOT FIRE YOU due to a work injury. if indeed it goes down this road, tell your husband to speak with his boss/hr and tell them exactly what happened, they can fight it and at least they see its NOT coming from him.
4) I have had similar complaints as your husband, shoulder, neck back, you name it, and I seem to have had unfortunate accidents. Nonetheless, what I found helped the most for my back was building up my core, (AB CIRCLE is great), and GET INTO THE POOL and JACUZZI. Whether he walks the pool, jogs or swim it made a HUGE DIFFERENCE in my REHAB and RECOVERY the jacuzzi also helped with the spasming I had.
5) For shoulder, their are alot of exercises / stretching you can do at home. HAs your doctor given you any Anti-Inflammatory / Pain Relieving Gel/Cream? Their are several out their and I got one and between using that, exercising my shoulder SLOWLY started feeling better. I did end up getting an injection and having two tears in my shoulder but the above helped get me through for a long time and help me to have a good outcome and recovery.
Hope it all works out for you.
Good luck

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Workers comp is a BENEFIT. ITs true in many cases what CANDYK said, they do sometimes send investigators to watch you. I had work comp injury and had witnesses to it and they sent their chief investigator to interview me, total crap but it is what it is. I have had 2 surgeries and they have paid for everything although want to deny my physical therapy so thats why i had to take my own rehab into my own hands. I didnt even take a day off from my surgeries and they still want to play games. The truly injured should get all necessary care and treatment needed without any problems but due to the # of people that fake their injuries or exasperate how bad they really are, its hurts those of us who are really injured. Either way, if your doctor and you believe it was due to work, USE IT. And my recommendation is DO NOT EVER CLOSE out your file when it comes to settling it. Tell them you want future medical as especially with a back, it could flare up and sometimes insurance companies will deny treatment for pre-existing.
Good luck

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Have a look at the Trekke Lumbar Lift, it is new in the market place. It was designed specifically to "unload" the lumbar discs to relief some forms of low back pain and has work fabulously for treating my chronis low back pain. My LBP is a result of degenerative spinal arthritis coupled with 31 years of being a heavy equipment opperator. The device can be worn all day, during all normal routines, i.e. sitting at the computer, running heavy equipment, jogging, golf etc, etc.

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